UPDATE: We loved the idea of Betty! But one of those friends I mentioned named her daughter Elizabeth “Betty” so we just couldn’t do it. Up until the moment I held her in my arms, I was crushing hard on Mabel and Edith/Edie. But then she looked at me and none of the names fit! In the morning, the sun was shining through the windows in my hospital room and even though it was definitely wintery outside, it felt like this baby needed a sunny name. We went back to June, a name I originally ruled out because Junie is close to Julie. But it just clicked, and Josephine made the most sense as her middle name. She’s June “Junie” Josephine and we are in love! Thank you ALL so much for your help.
Julie writes:
We have two boys. Franklin “Frankie” James is 7 and Otis Marshall is 3. Our third and last child will be here around Thanksgiving.
I feel like we’ve worked out our boy style pretty well. Down-to-earth names that look right on the name patch of a mechanic’s shirt. But creative, too. Not too weird, not too ordinary.
If this baby was a boy, we were considering Milo, Oscar, and Dean.
But we’re having a girl, and I can’t figure out what goes with our boys’ names.
We don’t want a name that sounds like we’re mad about having a girl, if that makes sense. So no Charlie or Stevie, even though I like them on other peoples’ kids.
Names like Sienna, Alyssa, and Olivia aren’t for us, either.
Some names that we liked when Frankie was born are now taken by friends. (Not that we couldn’t use them if we really loved them, but none of them are that good, at least not to me.)
So far that list is Alice, Luna, Eloise, and Josie, but I have two friends who are also due with girls around the same time, so that worries me, too!
Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.
Abby replies:
Congratulations on your new baby!
The way you describe your boys’ names is so vivid. I love it! I used to walk past this old garage turned brew pub on my way to the library, and it feels like that’s your style – retro, but with updates.
So what’s the equivalent of a name patch on a mechanic’s coveralls?
I think it’s a diner waitress name.
We need a name that’s vintage, but slightly unexpected. It has to feel creative and established, too.
Because you already know a lot of kids, it almost certainly can’t rank in the current Top 100, either.
And we’re avoiding anything too boyish.
What would you think of …
A SISTER FOR FRANKIE and OTIS
BETTY
Elizabeth is an evergreen classic, but no one is naming their daughters just Betty anymore. Which is crazy, because in the 1920s and 30s, it was the second most popular given name for girls in the US, behind only Mary. I love the idea of Bernadette “Betty” as a sister for Frankie and Otis.
BONNIE
A little more popular than Betty, Bonnie also feels nicely vintage and works well with your boys’ names.
DAISY
It’s the most popular name on this list, sitting just outside the current US Top 100. And maybe it’s a little more late nineteenth than midcentury. But I think Daisy works as a sister for Frankie and Otis.
CARLA or CARLOTTA
Okay, Carla is famous as the name of Rhea Perlman’s character on long-running sitcom Cheers, which is probably why this name came to mind. Or maybe it’s because I think Carlotta is a great alternative to mega-popular Charlotte. Oh, and because it offers up the nickname Carly (or Lottie for Carlotta) that are Charlie-like, but clearly feminine.
GWEN
Maybe it’s the whole Spider-Man/Gwen Stacy vibe, but I think Gwen sounds like a sparky sidekick for Frankie and Otis. The character’s full name is Gwendolyne Maxine Stacy. (I probably would’ve added Maxine to the list except for the Charlie/Stevie thing.) Gwendolyn is actually the most common spelling of the long version of the name, but just Gwen has long been given independently, too.
JEANNE
In French, John is Jean. Which makes Jeanne the equivalent of Jane. That’s about as classic as it gets. But it’s all sorts of throwback, too, isn’t it? And Jeannie is darling. It’s instantly familiar and very, very rare.
LULA
Strictly speaking, Lula is a nickname for Louise. But it’s not really used that way now. Instead, Lula feels like a Luna-meets-Lola kind of name, the best of both, but far less common.
MARTHA
I’m convinced Martha is about to make a comeback. It’s long read Martha Washington, all eighteenth century antique. But hey, this is the age of Hamilton! Lately Martha feels more like a fresh update for Hannah, a down-to-earth name with a capable vibe.
ROSIE
Or maybe Rose-called-Rosie? It’s the ultimate name on a work shirt for a woman, thanks to the World War II icon Rosie the Riveter. But it also works because Rose is a vintage favorite that mixes elegance and strength.
SALLIE or SALLY
This Sarah nickname hasn’t ranked in the US Top 1000 since 2004. In the nineteenth century, Sallie was the more popular spelling, and that might actually appeal more in our age of Ellie and Millie and Sadie. But either way, it’s a traditional favorite for a daughter with plenty of spirit.
TRUDY
While Gertrude seems stuck in style limbo, Trudy fits right in with Ruby and Lucy.
VERA
A name that mean either faith or truth, Vera is a brief, traditional choice that feels at-home in nearly any decade.
I think my favorites are Lula, Jeanne, Sallie, and Betty – all names that feel conventional, but unexpected by 2022 standards.
That’s not to say that Daisy or Gwen – or Alice or Josie – wouldn’t be great. It’s just that to get the same sort of feel as your boys’ names, I think a girl’s name has to be even less common. So that’s why I’m veering towards the truly underused, as opposed to the just not-too-popular.




Henrietta, Harriet, or Hattie, like Franklin the Turtle’s little sister.
Oh, and Dorothy! I have a young Dorothy in my family. Dottie, Dot and Dolly are the cutest nicknames.
My first thought was Sallie, and lo and behold it’s on your list! I don’t suggest Sally very often because it’s one of my favorites and I’m protective of its status as name everyone knows and nobody uses!
Diner waitress is exactly right:
Mabel
Hazel – a little popular but not when you compare it with the number of women named Jennifer in the 70s or men named Jacob in the 90s??
Harriet
Kit
Joan (how cute would a little Joni be?)
Marjorie (Margie? Jorie?)
Pearl
Penny
Of all the names suggested, I love Betty the most, but I think it is too nicknamey compared to your boys’ names. I would like to suggest Bettina, nn Betty, instead. It’s creative and unique, yet not too weird. Best if all, it fits fabulously with the names selected for your boys: Franklin, Otis, and Bettina. Happy naming!
Beryl (Berry/Rilla)
Wanda
Thelma
Ivy
Esther or Esme
June
Joyce or Joy
Imogen (Midge)
Margaret (Madge)
Frida
Nancy
I like the visual of a diner server. To me that means slightly fustier but spunky (surprising!) I like Lula, Martha, Lois and Sybil suggested and was also thinking:
Enid
Patsy
Velma
Penny
Maude
Kirby
Pearl
The CLASSIC diner waitress name is Mabel.
Frankie and Otis and Mabel!
I love Josie from your list! Alice feels like the right style but it does sound pretty similar to Otis.
My first thought was Maxine but I’m not sure if it’s what you are looking for since it will most likely shorten to Max
Frankie, Otis, and…
Nadine (Nay-dean)
Georgia
Molly
Lucille “Lucy”
Etta
Lola
Sadie
Ruby
Ella
Cora
Stella
Willa
Joan… Joanie
Faye
Hallie (rhymes with Sally)
Mabel
Eliza
Nell
Roxie
Tessa
Winnie
Ruth
Susannah
Margaret: Greta, Pearl, Daisy, Etta, Maisie… Nicknames galore with Margaret!
From your list I like Franklin, Otis, and Josephine nn Josie.
IMHO Alice is so great but rhymes with Otis but . Luna is a bit too trendy but Lola is good. Eloise is a bit too flowery with your boys but Lois is good.
From AMs list I like Franklin, Otis, and Rose nn Rosie. Gwen is great too!
My suggestions…
Franklin, Otis, Greta
(or Margaret nn Greta)
Franklin, Otis, Jane
Franklin, Otis, Anna
Franklin, Otis, Lucy
Franklin, Otis, Violet
Betty was the first name that came to mind for me! I love that you could tie it to Elizabeth or Bernadette, and I even know a Beatriz called Betty! I love Bonnie for you too. If you want a different sound from Frankie, you could go with Etta or Netta (still Bernadette? or maybe Annette?), Meredith, Ingrid, Gillian, Sybil, or Maeve.