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Name Help: A Brother for Wilder and Jones

January 28, 2022 By appellationmountain 19 Comments

Name Help: A Brother for Wilder and JonesName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!

Stacie writes:

We love our boys’ names and had no trouble agreeing on either of them. But now we’re expecting a third (and final) son, and nothing seems right.

Wilder was always our boy name. We liked the idea that Wilder could be Wil/Will if he ever wanted something more traditional. My husband and I met leading an outdoors experience for incoming college freshmen, so it seemed like an outdoorsy name, too.

With our second son, we settled on Jones pretty quickly for similar reasons. We liked the Jo/Joe nickname option and the idea that everyone knew how to spell it, but he wouldn’t be one of three boys named Liam.

The issues this time:

  • It feels like everyone else has found our list of names! For Jones, we also considered Banks, Wells (too close to Wilder?), Callahan, Hayes (we know one now), Boone, Flynn (decided we don’t really like them with our last name), Crew (too Chip and Joanna now?), Thatcher, Finnegan (too Irish/too many Finns), and Huxley (not sure we can pull this one off).
  • The nickname thing is hard. To be clear, we DON’T call the boys Will/Joe. But the way we decided on Jones so quickly was that the option was there. Lots of other names we’ve considering can’t really be shortened at all, much less with something that sounds traditional.
  • Because our last name ends with n, names ending with N aren’t great. I go back and forth on how much this matters. I really love Callahan, and I think Cal works as a nickname. But Callahan doesn’t sound great with our last name.
  • We don’t really want a popular name. My husband is one of three Mikes on his team at work. And while I know that it’s not likely to happen today, we still agreed to avoid anything in/near the Top 100. That rules out Harrison (which I like, but it wouldn’t work anyway), Weston (same), and Brooks.

Our last name sounds like Man-yun, but spelled differently.

Are we overlooking the perfect name?

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your third son!

I love the idea of cool surname names with classic nicknames! We hear it so often for girls – Emerson-called-Emmy or Madison-called-Maddie. But the options are there for boys, too, and they’re every bit as appealing.

One caution, though: it strikes me that you’re not calling your boys Will or Joe. So while I’ll focus on surnames that could have traditional short forms, maybe it’s not a dealbreaker if a name lacks one? (I’ve added a few in the mix that lack an easy nickname, just to see.)

And yes, … I do agree that the world has caught up to you!

Ten years ago there wasn’t a single Wilder out there. Now I really do hear it more and more often. But it’s still distinctive and different, so I think we can find a name that will be similar … possibly a little more familiar than you might like, but not Carter/Logan/Mason levels of popularity.

A BROTHER FOR WILDER and JONES

BENNETT

Not the most surprising choice – it currently ranks #101. But the possibility of shortening Bennett to Ben might appeal. For more Ben names, see this list.

CALDER

Calder isn’t in the current US Top 1000, even though it sounds like could – maybe should be! Cal isn’t quite as classic as Will or Joe, but it fits the general theme.

CAMPBELL

Most Cams are Camerons, of course. But Cameron isn’t great with your surname. Plus, it’s been a Top 100 pick for years, which also makes it not quite what you’re after. Campbell, though? It’s rare, a name that ranked on the fringes of the Top 1000 earlier in the 2000s. (It peaked at #663 for girls in 2006. For boys, Campbell never even cracked the Top 900.)

CROSBY

There’s no obvious nickname for Crosby. And yet, I think it sounds great with Wilder and Jones. It’s a different ending sound, which makes it distinct from your older boys’ names. Plus, Crosby is crisp and high energy – just like the names you’ve already chosen.

DEXTER

Easy nickname Dex puts this name on the list. And yet, Dexter strikes me as more vintage/throwback than Wilder or Jones?

GRADY

Does Gray count as a nickname? Like Crosby, I love the -y ending with Wilder and Jones. At #396, Grady is known but not too popular.

JACOBY

Jacoby looks like Jacob-with-a-y, which opens the door to nickname Jake. Sound-wise, Jack is another option.

LENNOX

Len, Lex, and Leo all feel like obvious nickname choices. The X ending is different, too – and yet, at #291, Lennox is a little more popular than you might wish.

MAGUIRE

How do you feel about alliteration? Maguire shortens to Mac. And yet, it’s such a great name – I’d want to use it in full!

RAFFERTY

It’s easy to imagine Rafferty shortening to Rafe, just like the more traditional Raphael/Rafael. This might be my favorite choice if you planned to shorten it … and yet, since you tend to use the names in full, that sways my opinion.

In fact, my favorite is Crosby. It’s got a great sound. At #801, it’s similar to Wilder and Jones in terms of popularity. And I love the way the three names sound together: Wilder, Jones, and Crosby.

But if the lack of nickname does matter? Then I think I’m most drawn to Calder, even though it means sharing the -R ending of Wilder.

Readers, what would you name a brother for Wilder and Jones?

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Comments

  1. renchickadee says

    February 2, 2022 at 3:40 PM

    McLean is a wildlife refuge in CT. It could be nicknamed to Mac or Lane. Oddly, the meaning is related to the meaning of Jones because they both derive from John.

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  2. JTS says

    February 1, 2022 at 4:55 AM

    What about Smith? Wilder, Jones and Smith

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  3. Anchors_and_Whales says

    January 31, 2022 at 3:30 PM

    Thirding Calloway!

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  4. Iris says

    January 30, 2022 at 5:44 AM

    Edison nn Ed
    Magnus nn Max
    Alistair nn Al

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  5. diane says

    January 29, 2022 at 5:55 PM

    I’d love Conall with Wilder and Jones. I feel Cal could easily be a nickname if you wanted to use one.

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  6. Maclary says

    January 29, 2022 at 4:10 AM

    This was a fun challenge! Here’s what I came up with:

    Abel – Abe
    Edgeley – Ed (Edison works too but not sure with your last name)
    Nicholls – Nick
    Bentley – Ben
    Danby – Dan
    Sammells – Sam
    Maxwell – Max
    McCall – Mac or Cal
    Roscoe – Ross

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  7. LadyRay says

    January 29, 2022 at 4:02 AM

    Congrats on baby #3! Honestly, my first thought for a suggestion was…

    WILDER, JONES, and FELIX!

    Didn’t see it anywhere in the comments, so I thought I’d chime in.

    All the best in this process! x

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  8. Sheri says

    January 28, 2022 at 10:05 PM

    Another nickname for Crosby could be Oz – we have a cat named Crosby (came to us at Christmas) and we call him Croz of Oz a good bit.

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  9. Liz says

    January 28, 2022 at 9:59 PM

    I’m hoping you like the stretch of the nickname Rob for Crosby because Crosby with your boys names is just perfect.

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    • appellationmountain says

      January 30, 2022 at 11:24 AM

      Oh, that is SO genius!

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  10. diane says

    January 28, 2022 at 7:07 PM

    Wild3r, J0nes and Conall or Cornell, nickname could be Cal.

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  11. Sharimsh says

    January 28, 2022 at 2:27 PM

    A nn option for Crosby could be Rob. I rather adore it with Wilder and Jones.

    Other ideas:
    Instead of Thatcher, what about Hatcher?
    Briggs
    Anders (Andy)
    Hayes (Hank)
    Davis (Dave)
    Donovan (Don)
    Blythe
    Graham
    Holmes
    Merritt
    Mosby (Moe)
    Oswald
    Tompkins (Tom)

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  12. â„… Nicole A says

    January 28, 2022 at 2:08 PM

    My favorite suggestion is Rafferty! Ray would also be a great classic nickname. Since you like Cal as a nickname (so handsome!) and nature name, what about Calyx or Calix? More obscure than your other kids, but so cool. (And who cares, I say! )
    Other suggestions I have:
    Fox
    Calloway
    Ash
    Flint
    Irving
    Louis
    Sirius nn Sy
    Cyrus nn Cy
    Morris nn Moss (kind of opposite nn situation as your other two but cool, right?)
    Sylvan or Sylvester (again poss nn Sy. I guess I really like that?)
    I think that considering how it sounds with your last name is excellent but don’t worry so much about matching as a family or hitting the pattern you happened to fall into with the others. (2 is not a pattern anyway!) Find what makes your heart sing or what just “feels like him” once he’s in your arms. Good luck!

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  13. Renee says

    January 28, 2022 at 1:07 PM

    I love the suggestions of Crosby, Grady and Lennox for you if you’re okay without that timeless traditional nickname option. Your sons names are distinct, and I’d totally skip repeating an ending (ER, S) and initial.

    I was coming to suggest Sullivan, though I’m not sure if that butts up against your surname in a bad way? I like that it’s at least a different syllable length, even if it ends in N. He could even be Sam at a slight stretch, which totally fits the pattern. Especially if you throw an A middle in here (SAM – bam.) But maybe that doesn’t sound good with the surname?

    I also love Calloway for you! You like Callaghan, but not the N ending. So why not Calloway??? Will, Joe & Cal, done!

    How about…(some of these nicknames are a stretch for sure)

    Pierce – Pete
    Millard – Miles
    Redmond – Ray

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  14. Alison Doherty says

    January 28, 2022 at 12:55 PM

    For some reason Garrett or Barrett jumped out at me as a good option for your new son – both are familiar but well outside the top 100 and they seem kind of rugged and in your style. I also love Callahan nn Cal, Bennet nn Ben, and the suggestions of Crosby or Rafferty from Abby’s list. A few other thoughts were Sterling or Ford … which don’t have great nicknames but feel like a nice match with Wilder and Jones.

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  15. A says

    January 28, 2022 at 12:25 PM

    Abby beat me to suggesting Crosby, Jacoby, and Grady; all fantastic choices! If Hayes, Wells, Brooks, Flynn were all on your list then I want to suggest Nash and Zane to you as well. I really love Crosby and Grady most for you though.

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  16. keats says

    January 28, 2022 at 12:19 PM

    I love Calder! That is a great suggestion. And Maquire is an awesome name that sounds perfect with your boys.

    My only other thought was Cormac. Again, a Mac nickname option. But it has the same adventure vibe.

    Wilder, Jones and Cormac.

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  17. Megan says

    January 28, 2022 at 11:03 AM

    I feel like Grady (or Brady) are great options for you. They ARE surnames, but they’ve been in use as given names so long they don’t need traditional nicknames as options to make them more like first names.

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  18. JH says

    January 28, 2022 at 10:47 AM

    Kellan
    Stellan
    Davis
    Alden
    Sailor
    Linden
    Dane
    Wallace

    Reply

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