Name Help: A Sister for Eliza and CharlotteName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!

Maddie writes:

We have two daughters, Eliza Ruth and Charlotte Jeanne, and we’re expecting our third girl in March.

Our tastes are pretty traditional, so you’d think it would be easy to find a name we agree on. It always has been before!

This time, though, it feels like every name we think of is already taken. And if it’s not taken by a friend/family member, there’s some reason it won’t work.

Names we had considered for Eliza and Charlotte but that feel out for this baby:

Amelia – Almost Charlotte’s name, but my sister named her daughter Emilia.

Anna – My best friend’s daughter’s name (who is also my goddaughter) so it feels like it’s the most taken of the taken!

Caroline – I feel like this is almost like repeating Charlotte’s name. (I’m always bothered by Elizabeth/Isabelle in the same family, too!)

Claire/Clara – My sister-in-law is Claire and they named their oldest daughter Clara.

Eleanor – It’s complicated, but we have a relative with this name and we don’t want it to seem like we’re honoring her. (Because we’ve avoided honor names.)

Emma – We know SO many Emmas, and it’s too close to Emilia, my niece.

Evelyn – Probably the name we’d use if we had to choose today, but we disagree on the nickname. Is it Evie, rhymes with Chevy, or Evie, like Stevie? We disagree completely.

Katherine – My sister’s name. We’re just not really into honor names for lots of reasons.

Margaret – I feel like we should love it, but we just … don’t. And I don’t like the whole choosing a nickname part, either.

Nora – A long-time favorite that maybe I still like, but we know a few.

Sophia – Same thing as Emma/Nora, we know a few.

Theresa – Just feels very old to me.

Victoria – Has always seemed like too much name, and I don’t care for Vicki/Vicky as a nickname.

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your new daughter!

I want to pause for just a minute and talk about what it means for a name to be taken.

It is taken because using the name would cause confusion or hurt or some combination of both? I can see that Claire/Clara would be out. Same with Eleanor – it sounds like avoiding family names is a priority that truly rules out considering the name.

But sometimes a name just feels less special if we’ve heard it on other kids in our community. That might be worth sitting with for just a minute. Because when we like more traditional names, it’s often very easy to think of some other person who already has the name.

In other words, are Emma, Nora, and Sophia really out of the question?

As for Evelyn, would you like it more if you never shortened it? It doesn’t sound like you regularly shorten Eliza or Charlotte, and I know plenty of Evelyns who never shorten their name, either – possibly ending the whole Chevy/Stevie debate.

For now, let’s look at some new possibilities.

FRESH SUGGESTIONS for ELIZA and CHARLOTTE’S SISTER

ADELAIDE

Traditional, but never common, Adelaide feels like a sister for Charlotte and Eliza. Yes, you might shorten it to Addie – but there’s no reason you need to do so.

FRANCES

I almost suggested Alice, but I think it’s pretty close to Eliza. So maybe Frances? The sounds are similar, and I love the way Eliza, Charlotte, and Frances sound together.

HELEN

There’s something about Helen. It’s a classic with a spare, strong sensibility. Helena and Elena are options, too, but I like the way Helen has a different ending sound than your older girls’ names.

JOSEPHINE

There’s so much energy with Josephine! It feels like a natural fit.

LUCY

Choosing an L name to put on this proved challenging! I consider Leah and Louisa, too. But Louisa sounds a little too much like Eliza, and maybe Leah is too brief with your older girls’ names? Lucy, though, could be exactly right – old-fashioned but with lots of twenty-first century appeal.

MARY/MARIE/MARIA

Parents often reject these names as too common, but if we’re talking babies born now? Mary is almost rare. I never hear Marie. And while Maria is more popular, it’s definitely not a Top Ten pick. But they are easily spelled, instantly recognizable, with lots of history.

ROSE, ROSALIE

Elegant Rose is too often stuck in the middle spot, when it really wears well as a first. Another option: a longer name, like Rosalie, which might balance out the length of Eliza and Charlotte nicely,

VERONICA

There’s something a little offbeat about Veronica, but only a little. It’s a fun name to say, with lots of bounce.

Overall, my favorite is Rosalie, or possibly Marie. That is, of course, that I can’t convince you to use Evelyn and not shorten the name.

Maybe Rosalie Grace, Marie Adelaide, or Evelyn Sophia?

Readers, over to you! What would you suggest for Eliza and Charlotte’s sister?

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25 Comments

  1. My first thought was Vivienne or Vivian! I think it’s a great alternative to Evelyn.
    Also love the suggestions of any Rose name or Frances.

    Other ideas:

    Sylvie
    Naomi
    Natalie
    Angelina
    Simone
    Gwen/Gwendolyn
    Alice

  2. Catherine, Beatrix, Cecilia, Cordelia, Daphne, Delia, Julia, Laura, Laurel, Lucy, Lydia, Margot, Matilda, Nina, Penelope, Phoebe, Susannah, Tessa, Vera

  3. Marilyn
    Evangeline
    Marion
    Alma
    Leonore/ Leonora
    Hannah
    Julia
    Juliet

    Would all go well with your daughters names & fit your classic vibe. Best wishes to your family !

  4. Like other others, I think Evelyn is lovely with sisters Eliza and Charlotte. The Evelyn in our family goes by her full name at home and elementary school.

    You also might like:
    Abigail — Eliza, Charlotte, and Abigail
    Beatrice — Eliza, Charlotte, and Beatrice
    Charis — Eliza, Charlotte, and Charis or Carys if you don’t like the repetition of Ch or if you think pronunciation might be an issue.
    Daphne — Eliza, Charlotte, and Daphne
    Felicity — Eliza, Charlotte, and Felicity
    Georgia — Eliza, Charlotte, and Georgia
    Grace — Eliza, Charlotte, and Grace You could consider a longer middle to pair with a short first.
    Hadley — Eliza, Charlotte, and Hadley
    Jocelyn — Eliza, Charlotte, and Jocelyn
    Lucy — Eliza, Charlotte, and Lucy
    Meredith — Eliza, Charlotte, and Meredith
    Phoebe — Eliza, Charlotte, and Phoebe
    Samantha — Eliza, Charlotte, and Samantha
    Tessa — Eliza, Charlotte, and Tessa
    Thea — Eliza, Charlotte, and Thea

    Best wishes to you!

  5. I think Evelyn would be a lovely choice! She can always be just Evelyn as lots of kids go by their full names nowadays plus Evelyn is not a name that is naturally shortened. If you introduce her as Evelyn that’s what people will call her. If you do want a nickname I also see no issue with dad calling her Evie like Stevie and mom calling her Evie like Chevy. I think it’s cute that each parent would have their own special way of saying it. As she gets older she can take the lead on which pronunciation she prefers.

    If not Evelyn then what about Vivian?
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Vivian
    Or Genevieve?
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Genevieve

    From Abby’s suggestions, I really love Rose, Josephine, and Lucy

    Other ideas

    Charlotte, Eliza, and Georgia
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Grace
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Lily
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Natalie
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Susannah
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Cora
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Gwendolyn
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Adelia
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Dorothy
    Charlotte, Eliza, and Jane

  6. A dear friend is Charlotte Evelyn, her sister is Elizabeth Cate. I really think Evelyn works. My first thought for a nickname is Evie, rhymes with Stevie (I’ve never heard Evie, rhymes with Chevy). I also love Rosemary for you!

  7. I always like Cora as an alternative to Nora. It does repeat the C initial in Charlotte, but a totally different sound.

  8. Does Anna being out also exclude Susannah? I have a niece Anna and a daughter Susannah and it’s never been an issue … I love Eliza, Charlotte and Susannah.

    Before reading the letter and comments I wondered about Lucinda … I like this if a longer form of Lucy appeals.

    Also love the suggestions of Adelaide and Lydia.

    All the best!

  9. Congratulations on your third daughter! I love Abby’s suggestion of Adelaide. It’s such a gorgeous name.
    The adult Evelyn who lives down my street sometimes goes by Ev -just the sound of the first syllable of Evelyn. So that’s a nickname option for you.
    Eliza & Charlotte sound like sisters from a Jane Austen novel, so some other picks from Jane Austen:
    Eliza, Charlotte & Lucy
    Eliza, Charlotte & Georgiana (or Georgia)
    Eliza, Charlotte & Jane
    Eliza, Charlotte & Lydia
    Eliza, Charlotte & Louisa
    Eliza, Charlotte & Sarah

    My favourite for you is still Adelaide.