Name Help: Sibling for Drew and WillUPDATE: She’s here! Amanda writes: Thanks to everyone for SO many good ideas. We appreciated the encouragement to use Charlie, and definitely will if we have another son in the future. After LOTS of back and forth, we got our list down to Tessa “Tess/Tessie” and Elizabeth “Ellie/Ella” only to decide she didn’t look like either name. We went back to all of the suggestions and ended up choosing Emily “Emmy” Tepper. Not a family name, but it fits her perfectly!

Amanda writes:

We have two sons, Andrew “Drew” Martin and William “Will” Daniels and now we’re expecting our third child, gender unknown. Andrew is named after my husband’s younger brother, who passed away when they were children. William is named for my dad, who died during that pregnancy. Both were emotional choices, and we’ve always been glad we named both of our boys for those reasons.

We’re not planning to use a family name necessarily, but lots of people are assuming that we will. It’s becoming awkward because we don’t want anyone to feel slighted, but we also can’t imagine going down a list of loved ones.

Our favorite name for a boy is Charles “Charlie” – no family connections. We’re not sure about a girl, but we like Evelyn “Evie” and maybe Charlotte. Except we don’t like Charlie for a girl, maybe because I think we’d like to save Charles in case we did have a son in the future, and Evelyn isn’t great with our last name.

I should add that Martin and Daniels are family last names, and we’d almost certainly use family names for a future child’s middle. Tepper is next on our list, but if it doesn’t sound right with a first name, we could choose something different.

Our last name is Irish and pretty common, but also pretty easy to match. It starts with an S, though, so we don’t want to either spell anything with initials, or use another S name as a first name.

Please read on for my response, and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Dear Amanda –

Congratulations on your baby on the way!

A few things jump out at me:

  • You didn’t make a decision to use family names. (Lots of couples do.) You made a decision to use the names Andrew and William, because they were specifically – maybe even uniquely – important to you both.
  • The family names you chose seem consistent with names you like. Here’s a common dilemma: a couple loves the idea of family names, but can’t bring themselves to name a daughter Barbara or a son Norman … or whatever slightly off-trend or just not your taste names are found on family trees.
  • You’re imagining more children in the future. None of us knows what will happen next, but you hope to add to your family. That means that a decision to choose a family name – or not – has implications beyond this pregnancy.
  • And … you’re still using family names as middles. I’m assuming they’re all surnames, right? The nice thing about that is that surnames can feel like they honor lots of loved ones at once. And they’re usually unisex. That can be a challenge with first names – after all, if you want to honor grandma Elizabeth, but keep having boys, there’s no satisfying masculine form.

Based on all of this, I have to say that it’s time to go your own way.

Imagine if you did find one more family name that you could agree on for this child. It would almost certainly lock you into a pattern for a future child, too, right? (I mean, not really. Except if you feel some pressure now, I imagine that wouldn’t lessen.)

Plus, Charles “Charlie” Tepper LastName is all kinds of great. Drew, Will, and Charlie sound just like brothers. And it seems like you agree on that name for a son … and only that name.

So that leaves girls’ names. It’s possible that you’d prefer a slightly different style of girls’ names, and yet, it seems like you’re thinking along the same lines. You’re pro-nickname, prefer something on the traditional side, and probably tend to avoid unisex names.

That leaves so many options! I’m going to suggest a few, and I know readers will have more ideas to suggest, too.

Adelaide or Adeline – Do you like the idea of Addie as a nickname? There are lots of formal name options, but I think Adeline and Adelaide feel the most like Andrew, William, and Charles.

Eleanor – Eleanor feels every bit as classic as your boy names. It shortens to Ellie nicely, or maybe Ella. I mentioned Elizabeth earlier, and I think that could be a great option, too.

Juliet or Juliette – While your boy names are classic, they’re also contemporary favorites, all ranked in the US Top 100. So maybe Juliet? Julia would be the more traditional pick, but I wonder if Juliet would appeal to you even more. Jules and Julie are the logical short forms.

Katherine – I tried to avoid the most classic of the classics on this list, because I feel like they’re easy enough to find on lists. But I really do like Called Katie or Kate, especially with Drew and Will and (maybe) Charlie.

Rosalie – As with Juliet, I suppose the truest classic would be Rose. But Rosalie feels like it might be just the tiniest bit more interesting, and you could call her Rose or Rosie.

Teresa or Theresa – It seems like you prefer nicknames that obvious connect to given names, so something like Margaret-called-Greta might be a stretch. But Tess (and Tessie and Tessa) are traditional nicknames for Theresa, and I think Tess sounds exactly right with Will and Drew.

Overall, my favorite is either Rosalie called Rosie and Rose or Katherine called Katie and Kate. I think both names are impeccably classic, but nicely stylish, too. And I think all the nicknames work well with your sons’ nicknames.

Readers, what would you suggest as a sister for Drew and Will? And do you have any advice on dealing with expectations around family names?

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  1. I just wanted to say that if you like Charlotte but not Charlie, how about Lottie? Here in the UK I know quite a few little girls with that name and it seems to work beautifully, nobody defaults to Charlie.

  2. For a name that can give rise to the nickname “Evie” can I recommend one of my niece’s names? “Evania”. I like the way “Evania Tepper [surname]” sounds.

  3. Abigail, nn Abby
    Caroline/a, nn Caro
    Catherine/Katherine, nn Cate/Kate
    Claire — I love this name!
    Elizabeth, nn Beth, Bette, Ebeth, Libby, Liz, Liza . . .
    Emma, nn Em, Emmi or Emmy
    Lillian, nn Lily
    Lucy – I’m not really fond of either Lucille or Lucinda, but I like Lucy.
    Margaret, nn Meg or Molly
    Martha, nn Marti
    Therese, nn Tess or Tessa
    Victoria, nn Tori or Tory
    Virginia, nn Ginny or Gina

    Your sons’ names follow the pattern of a two-syllable first name with a one-syllable, four-letter nickname. Of the names I’ve suggested, only C/Katherine C/Kate and Therese Tess follow the same pattern, but now I’m veering into name nerd territory, lol.

  4. I second Amelia. Nicknames could include the obvious Amy or Mia or Lia or Ellie or Mila.

    Other ideas:
    Anastasia nn Anna
    Lydia nn Liddy or Lia
    Elizabeth nn Ellie or Libby
    Eleanor/a nn Nora
    Edith nn Edie
    Caroline/a or Angelina or Catalina nn Lena/Lina or Nina

  5. Elizabeth Tepper McLastname, called Beth.
    Margaret Tepper McLastname, called Meg.
    Really, any of the Little Women will do!

  6. My first thought was Katherine/Kate which is pretty perfect! But, I also think you can be a little less “classic” with a girl name and it will still fit nicely with Drew and Will. Some suggestions:

    More traditional:
    Margaret (nn Meg or Maggie)

    I like Maeve or Kate best (I also like Catherine/Cate)

    Congratulations on your new baby!

    1. What about Charlotte with the nickname Lottie or Lotta for short. I think that’s super cute. Other suggestions are:

      Olivia (Olive, Liv)
      Cecilia (CeCe, Lia)
      Jillian (Jill)
      Georgina (Georgie, Gina)
      Eloise (Elle)
      Lucia (Lucy)

  7. Names with a similar vibe to Charlotte and Evelyn: