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NAMING TWINS WHEN YOUR STYLES ARE VERY DIFFERENT

Lena writes:

My husband and I are expecting our first children, twins, due in late December but we can’t agree on many names, which is frustrating. We have different styles and can be really picky and stubborn.

We both prefer first names outside of the US Top 150, though a little bit above 150 is doable. We don’t know the genders.

My preferences:

  • No masculine/gender-neutral names for girls, even as nicknames, though I’m open to gender-neutral names for boys.
  • I love classic and vintage names.
  • No trendy, overly modern names, names with kre8ive spellings, random word names, or anything that sounds like it’s a pet’s name.
  • No juniors. I don’t mind a variation of his name, but not the exact name. (His name is Eric, which could be a middle name or we could use a variation. We like Frederick. He loves Freddie on its own, but I prefer it as a nickname. For a girl, Erica could work for a middle.)

My husband’s preferences:

  • He hates most vintage names which equal old lady/old man to him.
  • He prefers more modern names and likes some alternative spellings – but I’m not a fan. It’s a pain to have to correct people and I hate y’s in place of other letters.
  • Gender-neutral names for girls are okay.
  • If we have a boy, he’d like a junior.

Names I’ve suggested for a daughter include:

  • Daphne – he thinks the Scooby Doo association is too strong
  • Fiona – he thinks of the ogre in Shrek
  • Lilia – he likes it but doesn’t feel it’s the one
  • Matilda – he thinks it’s too old and I hate the nickname Mattie/Maddie
  • Phoebe – the spelling is odd to him and doesn’t look how it’s pronounced
  • Susanna – he wants an h on the end if we use it, but I don’t like the h
  • Vera – he thinks it’s too old lady
  • Zara – he thinks of the store

Names I’ve suggested for a son include:

  • Callum – he hates the sound
  • Desmond – too old
  • Dorian – he thinks it’s too feminine
  • Edmund – too old and he hates “Ed”
  • Hugo – too old for him
  • Rowan – He just doesn’t like it

Names he has suggested for a daughter include:

  • Adelyn – I hate -lyn names because they’re trendy and overused
  • Becca – I don’t mind it as a nickname for Rebecca, but it looks incomplete by itself. He doesn’t like Rebecca
  • Bella – too Twilight for me
  • Coraline – because of the Tim Burton movie it’s hard to see it for an actual person
  • Elara – I just don’t like it. I don’t know why
  • Emery – I’m not a fan of it for a girl
  • Everly – I hate it, especially for girls
  • Finley – I don’t like it for a girl, but like it for a boy. He doesn’t
  • Gwendolyn – I dislike the -lyn ending. Evelyn is okay, but way too popular
  • Indie – it’s not a real name to me
  • Jovie – I don’t get the appeal of it
  • Juliet – I think of Romeo and Juliet
  • Kinsley/Kinsleigh – It’s trendy and un-feminine and I hate anything with -leigh
  • Luna – it’s a dog name to me and it’s very common now
  • Savannah – I think it’s tacky and doesn’t age well

Names he has suggested for a son include:

  • Kayden – way too trendy for me
  • Kingston – feels like it’s trying too hard
  • Lorcan – I’m just not a fan
  • Maverick – it’s tacky and too try-hard
  • Miller – I think of the beer
  • Ryker – I think of the prison
  • Zayne – I can’t picture it for an adult

We both like, but aren’t 100% sure about these girl names:

  • Adelaide Katherine “Adele” or “Ada”
  • Amara Genevieve
  • Anastasia Rose “Anya”
  • Anneliese/Annalise Pearl “Anya”
  • Camilla Jane
  • Cassandra Rose
  • Cecilia Rose
  • Cecily Mae
  • Corinna Jane (cor-REE-na)
  • Dahlia Mae
  • Greta Jane
  • Hattie
  • Felicity Anne
  • Juliana Rose
  • Kaia
  • Tabitha Maeve
  • Lorelei Elizabeth
  • Giselle Rose
  • Maren
  • Seraphina
  • Tessa
  • Vada
  • Viviana Mae “Vivi”

We both like, but aren’t 100% sure about these boy names:

  • Alistair Thomas
  • Casper
  • Dashiel (He likes Dash, I don’t)
  • Griffin
  • Jensen
  • Kellan
  • Magnus Oliver
  • Reid
  • Remy (does it stand on its own though? We don’t usually like nicknames as given names)
  • Stellan (We’re just worried about it sounding like Stalin)
  • Tobias James “Toby”
  • Wesley Elliot “Wes” (we’re just not fans of the popularity)

Regarding middle names:

  • For a girl, he likes Lynn, Marie, Grace, Ann/Anne, Faith, and Hope as middle names for girls. I agree on Anne or Hope.
  • For a boy, he likes James, Michael, Thomas, Wyatt, Hayden, and Logan for boys. I agree on Thomas or James.
  • I love Rose/Rosalie, Jane, Elizabeth, Mae/Maeve, Kate/Katherine, Pearl, and Ivy as middle names for girls. He likes Rose, Jane, Katherine, and Ivy.
  • For boys, I love Wesley, Elliot, Alfred, Francis, Callum, and Oliver for boys. He likes Elliot, Wesley, and Oliver from them.

Our last name is H0ltzm@nn.

Please help us with feedback and suggest more names and combos we might agree on. Thank you!

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

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A GREAT START FINDING MIDDLE GROUND

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your twins!

First up: you are doing The Work.

Are your styles very different? Yes. Are you finding the middle ground despite these differences? Again, absolutely yes.

It’s impressive!

Before we go any further, I wonder if you’ve considered two things:

  • Does one of you care more about names overall? It sounds like you might be equally invested in the process, which is great! But this doesn’t have to be a 50/50 vote. It’s okay to make it, say, 60/40 if one of you feels Very Strongly about something. In fact, if one of you feels very strongly about, say, a middle name being Eric/Erica, then that gives you one decision to work from – which might help.
  • Sometimes including middle names can simplify a decision. At other times, it makes it harder. You actually need to choose four names, right? I think the best approach is to choose your two favorite boy names and two favorite girl names and work from there. For this reason, I’d put all thoughts of middle names aside right now – unless there’s an obvious choice that simplifies the process, like one partner really preferring a specific middle.

FINDING TWO GREAT GIRL NAMES

Let’s start by looking at your existing list.

Because spelling and pronunciation are both concerns for you, I’m going to suggest dropping Anneliese/Annalise. It’s a personal favorite, but I do think it’s a ticket to a lifetime of “My name is Anneliese, A-N-N-E-L-I-E-S-E. Yes, I-E.” And there’s no spelling that really fixes that, at least not in the US. Likewise, I think pronouncing Corinna could be a challenge. And while Camilla isn’t especially popular, Camila ranks #13 in the US, so I think that fails your popularity test – and sets up a lifetime of Camilla-with-two-Ls.

Now let’s rank the rest of your list.

My two least favorite names for you are:

  • Kaia, because it feels much more like his style than yours, and feels tough to match with the rest of your list. (Kaia and Amara, maybe?)
  • Hattie, which might’ve been my favorite … but with your last name being H0ltzm@nn, it’s such a strong, memorable choice that nothing else matches it.

Somewhere in the middle, I’d list:

  • Amara – If only because it’s a little too modern
  • Anastasia “Anya” – I wonder if this is mostly making the list as another way to get to Anya?
  • Cecilia – Such a great name, but I think it pales compared to Cecily
  • Seraphina – Quite stylish and undeniably appealing, but it feels like you have stronger choices.
  • Tessa – This just feels like too much of a compromise, somehow?
  • Vada – I think I’m putting this in the Kaia/Amara category almost, even though I know it’s vintage.

And my top choices for you:

  • I think Cassandra, Tabitha, Lorelei, Juliana, and Viviana are all great with your surname and feel like solid compromise choices.
  • Cecily, Felicity, Dahlia, and Giselle are great, too – but maybe more on the pretty/vintage side than your husband seems to prefer.
  • Maren is a logical compromise name between your two styles, but it does feel a little tough to match from the rest of your list.
  • Greta seems to check all the boxes for you both.
  • Adelaide leaps out at me as the clear front runner – but would you mind if she ended up answering to Addie? It does seem like this takes Adelyn from his list and tweaks it to something more distinctive and vintage in style.

A few fresh suggestions to consider:

  • Ada – As a midpoint between Vada and Adelaide
  • Anya – On its own, rather than as a nickname
  • Genevieve – This appears only as a possible middle name, but it shares the nickname Vivi and Jensen’s first syllable
  • Veronica/Veronika – It’s Viviana, but with the name Eric nested within

Combinations for two girls:

  • Dahlia and Giselle
  • Ada and Maren
  • Anya and Greta
  • Genevieve and Adelaide
  • Veronica “Vera” and Adelaide “Ada”

FINDING TWO GREAT BOY NAMES

Again, let’s begin with your existing list.

As much as I think Dashiel/Dash is an obvious compromise, if you’re not wild about the short form, I feel like this should be dropped. I’m also going to suggest dropping Alistair. It’s such a great name, but it’s absolutely a spelling challenge – and it seems like something you’d prefer to avoid. (Though I’ll concede that, for the right name, it can absolutely be worth it.)

Moving on to ranking the rest of your list.

My least favorite names for you are:

  • Casper – It’s such a great name, and yet … it’s really different. Maybe too different? I considered longer Cas- names, but Caspian and Cassian don’t sound great with your surname. There’s Cashel, but I think that’s likely to be too similar to Dash/Dashiel.
  • Stellan – I would rate it higher, but once you have in your head “wait, this sounds too much like …” I suspect it’s not going to work out for you, at least not for this child

Somewhere in the middle, I’d put:

  • Kellan – Does this tip too much into the modern category?
  • Remy – I’d like to put this closer to the top of the list. Because it does stand on its own! It’s French and complete, a formal name since the 400s. But I concede that it feels a little trendier and more modern than you’d prefer.

And at the top of the list:

  • Griffin – I feel like it’s a good mix of current and traditional
  • Jensen – Maybe a little more in the Kellan camp than, say, Tobias, but it’s unexpected and I think that makes it work
  • Magnus – a big, grand name with history to spare
  • Reid – brief, complete, polished, I think this is one of those exactly right traditional-meets-modern picks
  • Tobias – this is more old school, but if your husband is on board, then maybe it’s The Name
  • Wesley – Yes, it’s more popular than you might like, and yet, it’s not exactly Liam/Oliver/Noah

Some fresh suggestions to consider:

  • Everett – Yes, it ranks in the Top 100, but nothing sounds quite like Everett. It combines the best of all those V sounds you love with names like Elliot.
  • Frederick, called Freddie – A formal name that incorporates dad’s name and an old-fashioned nickname that makes it clear your kid isn’t a junior.

Combinations for two boys:

  • Reid and Wesley
  • Reid and Griffin
  • Frederick “Freddie” and Tobias “Toby”

Combinations for boy/girl twins:

  • Veronica and Frederick – Vera and Freddie – It’s all in on the named-after-dad idea, which is probably too much, and yet, the names sound far more like your style than his.
  • Tobias and Adelaide – Toby and Ada are sweet together, and the names feel like strong compromises between your two styles
  • Wesley and Maren – Both are vaguely surname in style, but mostly feel like traditional first names that fit with current trends
  • Ada and Reid – or even Adelaide and Reid? Except that visually I think Adelaide overwhelms Reid when I write the names. Ada and Reid are just the right amount of repeating D sound.

I’m having a really hard time choosing favorites, but if I must? Right now, I’d say:

  • Adelaide and Genevieve for two girls, called Ada and Vivi. (Or Gigi?)
  • Reid and Griffin for two boys, though I could easily swap Wesley in for either of those names.
  • For boy/girl twins, Ada and Reid are an easy choice. I’d be tempted to use Ada Katherine and Reid Frederick.

Readers, over to you! How would you compromise on naming twins?

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27 Comments

  1. We like Cassandra Hope “Cassie”, Anastasia Pearl “Anya”, Seraphina Rose “Sera”, and Tabitha Jane for girls and Tobias ” Toby”, Wesley Oliver “Wes”, and Elliot Thomas “Eli” for boys.

    1. I like Anastasia with Cassandra. Anya is actually a Russian nickname for Anna, not Anastasia, though Americans probably wouldn’t know. I also like Elliott and Tobias.

  2. We like your suggestions of Adelaide and Genevieve (nicknamed Ada and Vivi), Reid and Griffin, and Ada Katherine and Reid Frederick. They’re great names! Thank you.

  3. Your nephews have awesome names!

    We like Oscar (he likes Ozzie/Ozzy, but the Osbourne family ruined it for me), Ronan, Elliot (a bit too popular though, which is why we hesitate on it), Calla, Magnolia (nickname Maggie. It’s gotten borderline trendy, even though it’s actually an old name), and Aurelia (but the nicknames Aura and Aurie aren’t appealing and Lia is pretty but way too close to Lena). Calliope is a hard no. The pronunciation will cause problems and the PEE sound at the end isn’t good. It turned us off of Penelope too. I like Arthur, Edward, and Philip but he thinks they’re too Royal family for him and he likes Finn, Cole, and Elodie, but I’m not a fan of Cole or Elodie and Finn is a nickname to me.

    1. You have some beautiful names to choose from!

      I love Magnus Oliver and Alistair James. The inverted endings, top ten middles with bold strong adventurous firsts. Gus and AJ!

      For girls I do love Susannah and Adelaide. They both have sunny porch swing kind of vibes. Susannah Jane and Adelaide Ivy gives you good mix of preferred middles and firsts. Susie and Ada. Could you get Anya from Susannah? I think you could … Anya and Ada are cute as a button.

      For the mixed pair, I kind of adore Greta and Griffin. The repeat initial isn’t for everyone but on mixed gendered kids, I think the identity is often distinct enough that the shared initial can work well. Maybe Greta Helena and Griffin Frederick to honor you both!

      Best of luck!

      1. Great thought about Anya from Susanna! Our Susannah uses the full name, but I throw an Annie out there every now and again to steer away from Susie. Anna from Susanna and Anya from Anna … I like it a lot 🙂

  4. Many congratulations on your twins.

    For girls :

    Genevieve Faith and Adelaide Ivy
    Or
    Anastasia Pearl and Cassandra Hope
    Or
    Seraphina Rose and Tabitha Jane

    Are just delightfully beautiful.
    The lovely combination of shorter nick names with these are so cute too.

    For boys :

    Tobias and Wesley work well together as Abby suggests.

    Tobias Francis and Wesley Oliver
    Or
    Casper James and Elliot Thomas

    For either :

    Tabitha and Tobias are lovely names as babies, teens and adults.

  5. Wesley and Reid would be my pick for boy/boy twins. They both hit the sweet spot of familiar yet not too popular and they each feel very timeless and handsome. If you are open to suggestions then I think Calvin would fit nicely too. It’s similar to Stellan and Kellan on your list but feels a bit more old fashioned while still offering friendly, modern “Cal” as a nickname.
    Wesley and Calvin, Wes and Cal

    For girl/girl twins, I like Tessa and Maren. They both seem like a nice compromise between each of your styles while still nicely complimenting each other.
    Tessa Katherine and Maren Rose perhaps?

    For boy/girl twins, I think Adelaide and Wesley “Ada” and “Wes” are just darling together. I love how each names offers a sweet, fun nickname too. Adelaide Katherine and Wesley Frederick or Wesley Elliott.

    My wildcard suggestion would be Natalie and Zachary for boy/girl twins. You each have a Z name on your list so maybe classic cool Zachary would appeal? And Natalie is long and feminine and could be a sister to a lot of choices on your list but she’s also frills free and modern sounding like a lot of choices on his list. She’s a modern classic without being too “old lady”.

    1. Calvin is great and we like the nickname Cal. Wesley “Wes” and Calvin “Cal” are cute together. We like Tessa Katherine and Maren Rose, Adelaide Katherine and Wesley Elliot, and we like Natalie and Zachary, but they’re too popular.

  6. Throwing my own name into the hat. I am a Gwendolen, the classic Welsh spelling. My dad hates Lynn names and 38 years into the traditional spelling I’ve never struggled.

    1. Gwendolen looks much better than Gwendolyn! I prefer it and have gotten Erik on board with the spelling. We like Gwen for the nickname a lot. Not overly traditional, but not too modern either. I’m not a fan of Lynn names, just like your dad.

  7. It sounds like you’ve talked through a lot of names so I won’t give you more first name ideas. I think you have enough to go on on your crossover list and just need to figure out if your style is more elaborate or no-nickname? Maybe spend a day trying out a pairing in your mind and aloud? Then another set the next day? Twins is more than double the naming challenge!

    I love the idea of juniors for each of you, in the middle – so Eric / Erica / Frederick and Lena / Lee / Lennox (I’m not sure how you pronounce your name? LEE-na, LEN-a, LAY-na? So maybe other variations work.)

    Here are my fave pairings, I LOVE these sets.

    Alistair & Tobias
    Magnus & Stellan

    Cassandra & Juliana (Cass & Jules!)
    Greta & Maren

    Casper & Greta
    Tobias & Adelaide (Toby & Lady!!)

    1. My name is pronounced LEE-na. But I get called LAY-na a lot too, which I don’t mind because I like both versions. We love Alistair and Tobias, Cassandra and Juliana (we’re thinking Cassie and Julie, but Cass and Jules are cute even though I usually hate masculine names for girls, including nicknames. We’re considering Cass and Jules as occasional nicknames), Greta and Maren, and Tobias and Adelaide (Lady isn’t an actual name to us. It feels like a title. We’re not sure about what nickname we’d use. He likes Addie, I like Ada, Adele/Adela). He likes Ada, but not as much as Addie. But there are too many Addie’s. Lol

  8. So many thoughts! While reading your preferences, I’m thinking Susannah! When I get to the bit about juniors, I think Frederick! You clearly have put a lot more thought into it than I, but I love your thinking!

    Interestingly your possibilities and compromise lists overlap so much with my kids names. I have a Susannah (I love the h!) and whatever the spelling it’s always been a delight to say. You have Alistair on your maybe list … I have one of those too! Another name I still enjoy 14 years later. Of course I say Alistair & Susannah together so often, I think it’s a great pairing. (I also have a child with an “Ed” name and one with a longer form of “Hattie”)

    Adelaide is one of two on my list of never to be used girl’s names (the other is Clara, do you like that?).

    My Alistair (who actually loves his name) would love to be a Magnus or a Griffin – they make a great strong and fun pairing.

    You mention that you both like Lilia, but don’t think it’s the name … what about Lillian? Susanna & Lillian both have ties to Lily, which could be a fun and subtle connection.

    But my vote would probably be:

    * Susanna & Adelaide
    * Frederick & Alistair
    * Susannah & Frederick

    with honorable mentions to:
    * Susanna & Lillian
    * Alistair & Susanna
    * Frederick & Adelaide (love the repeating sounds and the possibility of Freddy & Ada)
    * Magnus & Griffin (just for fun!)

    All the very best, you are doing so well!

    1. Susannah and Alistair are great together! We like Clara, but it’s gotten so popular so we’re a little hesitant.

      We like Susanna and Adelaide, Frederick and Alistair, Susanna(h) and Frederick, Susanna(h) and Alistair, Frederick and Adelaide (Freddie and Ada are adorable).

  9. Wow, this is a lot of work! I would find out the genders just to avoid having to pick these many names!
    For a boy, the names that stand out to me are:
    Griffin nn Finn (instead of Finley)
    Tobias nn Toby
    Magnus nn Gus
    For a girl, the names that stand out to me are:
    Anya
    Maren
    Cecily
    (Hattie is a nickname and Lorelei could be spelled Lorelai, which you want to avoid)
    For the middles, I like using the parents’ names:
    Maren Lena and Magnus Eric
    Maren Lena and Cecily Erica
    Griffin Lane and Magnus Eric (Finn and Gus)

    1. We’ve been going back and forth on finding out the genders. We weren’t sure yet during that ultrasound so we decided to wait, but now we’re thinking about finding out. We still aren’t 100% though. Maybe 75-80%.

      We like Griffin “Finn” (he prefers Finn on its own, but it’s so trendy as a given name), Tobias “Toby”, Anya, Maren, and Cecily. We like Cecily Erika. He is Erik so we lean slightly more towards the Erika spelling. We’re not fans of how Lorelai is spelled and I like Harriet or Henrietta “Hattie”. He doesn’t like Harriet or Henrietta, but likes Hattie.

  10. Hi! So exciting to be expecting twins! My older nephew is named Hugo & it works well for him & my little nephew is Casper (middle name Frederick) & I couldn’t imagine him as anything else!! You have some names on your list that seem to fit all of your criteria…it is just a matter of falling in love with them a little more, I think.

    I am including some others that might hit the sweet spot too:
    Oscar
    Arthur
    Edward “Ned”
    Philip/Phillip
    Finn
    Elliot
    Ronan
    Cole

    Calla
    Magnolia
    Ophelia
    Elodie
    Cordelia
    Aurelia
    Calliope
    Cosima

    Best wishes!!