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Lynne writes:

Our fourth baby will be here any day now. We’ve been calling him Kermit all along, because somehow our three year old got the idea that this baby is a frog. But for an actual name we’re pretty stuck.

We like traditional names, but prefer names that our kids won’t have to share. As much as I love Catherine’s name, and always wanted that name for my first daughter, the whole Catherine-with-a-C thing gets old, and there are other Katherines in our friends group.

We do like saints’ names, but I really want to love the name more than anything.

Vincent’s name has been perfect, and we’re looking for another boy name just like that. We also like that he gets called Vincent all the time now, but if he wants to in the future, he could be Vince.

Our boy’s name for Catherine was Benedict, but Ben is too short for me, and now we realize that there are lots of Bens. (Though not so many Benedicts!)

My husband tends to like really different names. He’s suggested Ambrose, Sebastian, and Clement. Sebastian is too popular, though we don’t know any. And I’m not sure I’m into Ambrose or Clement.

Also, I don’t think I want to repeat initials, but maybe I’m being too fussy now.

Our last name starts with Mac and the second part rhymes with Story.

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

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NAMING A BROTHER FOR CATHERINE, VINCENT, AND MIRIAM

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your new son!

I think you’ve got a good list of criteria – just enough to narrow your options, but not so much to be limiting. Let’s sum them up:

  • Traditional first name, preferably associated with a Catholic saint
  • Not the kind of name that automatically gets shortened (like Benedict/Ben), though a potential nickname option is appreciated
  • Probably won’t begin with C, V, or M
  • Not too popular, not too out-there

I’m so tempted to suggest names like Kenneth, in hopes of leaning into the in utero nickname Kermit! But alas, I don’t think any of the options work that well.

Instead, let’s start fresh. Some of these feel a little older, while others are more contemporary.

TRADITIONAL BOY NAMES YOUR SON (PROBABLY) WON’T HAVE TO SHARE

ABEL

We know it’s an Old Testament name, though we tend to hear it as the word. Able, as in capable. Besides the feuding brother, there’s another Saint Abel from the eighth century.

ALBERT

It’s so delightfully old school, and yet who could argue with Albert?

EDWIN

There’s something smooth about Edwin. Way more than Edward or Edmund, right?

FELIX

It’s an old school name, but that X at the end makes it feel very current. It’s a midpoint between popular Alex and Max and super old school Augustine and Ignatius.

LAWRENCE

No one is naming their sons Lawrence – not in big numbers anyway – but this is a name that just plain works. It’s traditional, has fun nickname options – Lars, Lawrie/Laurie, Ren – and everyone immediately recognizes. Strictly speaking, Laurence is an equally valid spelling … but Americans favor Lawrence-with-a-W pretty significantly.

PETER

In my mind, Peter belongs in the same category as Henry and Theodore. That’s not quite right, though. Peter never ranked in the US Top 25 and it’s been out of the Top 100 since the 1990s. So it’s obviously classic and nicely uncommon.

ROBERT

The story of Robert is similar to Peter, except that back in the day? Robert was number one! There are lots of grandpa Bobs out there, but not nearly as many little Bobbys and Robbies. If Albert is darling, but a little too old school, Robert might strike the right note.

SIMON

Simon sounds smart and traditional, but again? It’s far less popular than you might guess.

Overall, I’m drawn to Felix. It checks all the boxes on your lists, plus that final letter X makes it so very cool. Catherine, Vincent, Miriam, and Felix.

I’d put Edwin a close second. One benefit to Edwin is potential nickname Ned, which is fun and vintage. Though Eddie can be sweet, too.

Readers, over to you. What would you name a brother for Catherine, Vincent, and Miriam?

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21 Comments

  1. I have always thought Ambrose was such a great, handsome name. I think it would be lovely with your other kids.

    But here are some other ideas that have the same timeless, pious qualities that your other kids’ names possess:

    Anthony- a more popular name than Albert or Ambrose-, but also so handsome- is it too popular?
    Gabriel
    Dominic
    Julian
    Adrian
    Timothy
    Philip

    Okay, okay… now hear me out. Thaddeus. Because Tad. Like tadpole 🙂

  2. I love your style! Please forgive repeats:

    Blaise
    Ignatius
    Nathaniel
    Raphael
    Xavier
    Peter
    Francis
    Thomas
    Adam
    Edmund

  3. My family overlaps some of your current names, so we must have similar taste. Some ideas:

    Alexander
    Daniel
    Francis
    Gabriel
    Isaiah
    Jeremiah
    Michael
    Pascal (Cal)
    Roman
    Samuel
    Stephen
    Timothy
    Xavier
    Zachariah

  4. I’d actually suggest you use Kermit. It fits your criteria and used to be fairly common. The frog isn’t that bad a reference. You could get him a muppet doll.

    Otherwise: Albert, Alfred, Basil, Clark, Clement, Dominic, Edmund, Edwin, Francis, Harold, Kent, Lawrence, Leonard, Luthor, Nicodemus, Patrick, Peter, Philip, Quentin, Ralph, Randolph, Richard, Robert, Simon, Stuart, Terence, Thaddeus, Warren, Willard, Wilson, Xavier

    1. I’ll add Adrian, Bartholomew, Blaise, David, Dennis, Edgar, Gregory, Julian, Leo, Oscar, Raphael, Roger, Stephen.

      One of my cousins has a Gregory, though it might clash with your last name.

  5. Hi-
    Here are some more saints’ names for boys that I think could work well:

    Adrian
    Barnabas/Barnaby
    Bruno
    Damian
    Ferdinand
    Frederick
    Hubert
    Hugo
    Julian
    Otto
    Slyvester

    My favorites of these might be Frederick, Hugo, and Julian…but I like them all and maybe one of these names will be right for your little boy!

    Best wishes!

  6. I think Kenneth (Ken, Kenny, Kith, Kit, if not Kermit) is a good match with Vincent. Francis/Frank; Jude; Silas; Titus; Timothy.

  7. If it were me and I was trying to stick with Saint names that don’t repeat an initial and have a nickname option but don’t need one, here are my faves!

    Anton “Tony”
    Gilbert “Gil” or “Bertie”
    Isaac “Ike”
    Ivan “Van”
    Patrick “Patch”
    Raymond “Ray”
    Tobias “Toby”

    I like the syllable match of Tobias with Miriam, and I like the V connection of Vincent & Ivan, but my fave is Patrick just not sure if that’s popular in your circles.

    (I also wondered how to choose a K name to keep Kermit as a nickname but I think that’s kinda repeating the sound of Catherine.)