Name Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Most Saturdays one reader’s name questions will be discussed.
E. writes:
Our twins are due in a few weeks, and we have a problem and hope you can help.
Before we got pregnant, we talked about names. He liked Leo for a boy. He has a grandpa Leonard. That’s not exactly why we like the name, but it makes me like it more.
I have always, always, forever, always wanted to have a daughter named Lily. My dolls were all Lily, I made up a Halloween costume around being Princess Lily when I was little, and tried to name our family’s cat Lily.
For a few weeks, I thought our twins were both girls. We were looking for another name to go with Lily.
But we just found out that they’re girl-boy. I don’t like Leo and Lily together. They’re just too close.
We’ve decided to drop Lily. There just aren’t any boy names that we agree on besides Leo. And we do have a list of names that we like besides Lily. But we can’t choose.
Here’s our list:
- Emma – he loves, I’m just meh
- Ruby – I really like, he says okay
- Rose – what he wanted for Lily’s twin sister, but now that’s not happening, he says no to Rose
- Ella – still think this sounds too much like Leo
- Nora – maybe my new favorite
- Clara, Claire – another new favorite, but not sure which one I like more
The middle name will be Kathryn, for my gran. No long names because our last name is long enough already!
Help!
Please read on for my reply, and leave your own thoughtful suggestions in the comments.
Hi E. –
First, congratulations!
Second, oh how I do dislike it that you’ve had to let your favorite name go! But I suspect it’s the right decision. After all, Leo is a pretty sweet way to honor a grandpa Leonard, and if it just happens to be the name that you both love? Then it’s a keeper.
But here’s what leaps out at me immediately.
Looking at Rose, Claire, and Kathryn, I wonder if you would like Kate. Then both children are sort-of-not-really named after grandparents. I wonder if you would use Lily as a middle name? Leo ___ and Kate Lily?
I do think you should agree to drop Ruby and Emma, since you’re not equally enthusiastic about them. Ella does seem awfully close to Leo. Rose seems like a great substitute for Lily, but again, if he’s not on board, let’s move on.
That leaves Nora and Clara or Claire. I think all three choices would be great.
I’ll also suggest:
Hazel – I know it doesn’t sound much like the other names on your list, but stay with me for a minute. Hazel and Leo are both vintage names with modern sounds. Like Lily and Rose, it’s a nature name. And it’s not too long, so it will work with a more complicated last name.
Cora – I feel like Cora combines the best parts of Nora and Clara.
Gemma – It’s just slightly different than Emma, but maybe it’s different enough that it will appeal to you both?
Sophie – Sophie sounds like a nickname for Sophia, but it’s not – it’s the French form of the name. I like Sophie and Leo together quite a bit; another option might be Sylvie.
I could go on, but I’m not sure I should – after all, you have a really great list started already, and it’s a question of narrowing things down.
My favorite from your list is probably Nora. I think Nora and Leo are perfectly matched.
From my suggestions, I’m secretly cheering for Kate Lily! I love the idea that both names come from grandparents, but are updated to make them all their own.
Readers, what would you suggest to E. for her daughter’s name?
Leo is the lion. Then why not take a different part of Grandma’s name to make another animal?
Wren!
I just heard this moniker in real life this last week and feel in love.
Leo ______ & Wren Lily are charming together.
Congratulations and best wishes!
THAT is brilliant!
Nailed it with Wren!!! Absolutely could not be more perfect!
Also, Kate and Leo make me think of Titanic … As does Leo and Rose. Maybe it’s just my generation though? I was a love struck 14 year old who saw the movie a million times
I don’t like that at all. 1) they already dropped Lily because they didn’t want their twin names to match (How ironic that in this age of “sibsets” people are averse to letting their twins have coordinating names. I think Leo and Lily are great, but whatever). 2) I really don’t like the message behind “Leo and Wren.” The boy gets a powerful noble beast and the girl gets a drab songbird?
I don’t think the name Wren evokes “drab songbird” at all. Very powerful symbol in druid lore. Again, I’m probably biased because it’s the name of my kid. The message behind Wren is a subtle nod to the grandmother, like Leo is for a grandfather. What “powerful beast” would you recommend for a girl name?
I think the Titanic factor would be too much to overcome, of course Leo and Kate sound great together because we are used to hearing the names of the actors paired.
I actually went to the Hugh Jackman movie, Kate and Leopold. But then, am old.
Oh brilliant! I vote for Kate Lily. I have a cousin who’s named her daughter Kate. Not Kathryn (or variation) just Kate. And it actually is fresh and spunky. That incorporates your gran, Leo incorporates his grandpa, and that kind of perfect in itself. Plus, added bonus of you get Lily as a middle name.
Other names:
June
Esme
Good luck!!
I like Nora from the suggestions. Also Mira or Myra fit the “sort of old-fashioned” feel that some of the other choices have, and goes nicely with Leo.
Or maybe a longer name, like Marina or Nadia or Rosemary?
Another vote for Kathryn Lily, nn Kate. Nora gets my second vote.
Kathryn Lily, called Kate, would be perfect. Kate Lily also works but I think Kathryn “flows” better, and it’s a name that you wanted to use anyway. Leo and Kate sound great together!
I really like your suggestion of Kate! Lily in the middle is a bonus. I say go for it! Leo and Kate go so well together.
Oh I’m going to jump on board and push for Lily-Kate too! I think Lily-Kate and Leo work very well! However, if lily if truly off the table, I like Claire best
Do you like Romilly? It is a little bit Rose, a little bit Lilly.
I’m so sad she is giving up her favorite name, I almost want to convince her to have a Lily and Leo. Could a double barrel first name that includes Lily work? Lily Kate or Lily Belle stand apart from Leo.