Name Help: Truly Unusual Name for a FirstbornName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!

Devin writes:

My husband and I are expecting our first in February, and do not have much in the way of names. We will not be finding out boy/girl until baby is born. Ideally, we’ll have three first/middle combinations ready to choose from when the baby arrives.

Two families names we’re considering are Lillian Lucinda and Andria Nicole, but I don’t really like either name. (Lucinda appeals as a middle name.)

For girls, we both like Elliot Eirlys. Eirlys means snowdrop, and that’s the flower of my birth month and also was the shape of the brooch that my husband wore on the day of our wedding. I also like Ireley with Elliot, as that’s how I’ve pronounced Eirlys in my head, even though it’s not “correct”.

The other pairing that is a contender is Edwin Lucinda. Edwin was the name of my grandma’s father. Edwin makes me think of “medieval princess” names like Genevieve, Gwendolyn, etc. but feels more wearable. My husband doesn’t love Edwin, but he likes Edwin Lucinda and the idea of calling our potential little girl Winnie.

Lastly for girls, I really like the middle name Colette, from the family name Nicole and my middle name, Annette.

We’ve talked about boy names, but nothing feels quite right. We both like Sullivan, but I have a hard time imagining actually using it. We also both like Floyd, and I like Theo.

Our biggest fear is baby having a common name and having to go by first name + first initial of last name. We don’t want Biblical names.

This feels like such a huge responsibility, and I think we’re both feeling the pressure. Any help or thoughtful suggestions would be much appreciated.

Please read on for my response, and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Dear Devin –

Congratulations on your first! It’s tough to narrow down a list of seemingly endless possibilities to just a single first-middle combination, isn’t it?

Let’s start with what you want: an unusual name that isn’t Biblical in origin and, preferably, has some personal meaning, too.

Here’s the million-dollar question: precisely how unusual?

Because Elliot is a little bit different. It’s in the Top 200 for boys, spelled with one ‘t’ and two. For girls, it’s between the 500s and 600s, depending on spelling. That’s different, but far from unknown. Everyone will hear it and (probably) understand it immediately. You’ll meet other Elliot(t)s, both boys and girls. There may even be one in your child’s class. But it’s not likely to be a name she shares with lots of kids her age.

Edwin, on the other-hand, is jaw-droppingly, wait-what level different. It’s falling out of favor for boys, and it’s virtually unused for girls. A boy named Edwin would stand out. A girl named Edwin? I think that’s so different as to be potentially burdensome.

On some level, that’s a crazy response, of course. Girls are named Eden and Rowan all the time. Winnie is a perfectly reasonable nickname for a daughter, a sassy, vintage name that sounds downright sweet.

But our perceptions of names are based largely on past usage and sound. It’s easy to hear Elliot as a girl’s name because of Ella and Ellie and Juliet, too. Plus, we’re hearing – at least occasionally – for girls. Edwin seems like a stretch, a name we instantly recognize as masculine, and have a hard time recasting as feminine.

So my vote goes to Elliot Eirlys, Elliot Lucinda, or maybe Elliot Andria.

I wonder if you’d consider:

Elowen – It’s a Cornish tree name that would shorten to Ellie or Winnie – even if the spelling isn’t exactly right. Very rare in the US, Elowen reminds me of Edwin, but it’s less clearly gendered.

Lucienne – Or even Lucien or Lucian. Lucienne is the French feminine form, but I wouldn’t be shocked to meet a female Lucien. It’s tailored and unexpected, a name that fails to make the current US Top 1000. (Lucian is quite rare, too.) We so many girls with Lucy names that they all feel accessible.

Winter – If you love Winnie for a girl, and have a tie to the season, then maybe Winter-called-Winnie is just different enough? I think Winter Colette works nicely.

Now, on to the boys. Theo strikes me as the kind of name that might frustrate you. Theodore ranks in the current US Top 100, and is gaining steadily. The overwhelming majority of those boys probably answer to Theo, at least some of the time.

Instead, I wonder if you’d consider Edwin for a son? It’s a non-Biblical name that you both like, and one that others will recognize without it being at all common. Edwin Eirlys works well for a son.

Other ideas, that fall somewhere between the quirky Floyd and the familiar Theo:

Bram – Big in the Netherlands, Bram is a Dutch nickname for Abraham.

Flynn – If Sullivan isn’t quite right, how about Flynn? It’s another Irish surname with an upbeat feel, but it’s even less familiar than Sullivan.

Thayer – I wonder if another Th- name might appeal, instead of Theo? There’s Thatcher and Thaddeus and Thorpe, but I think Thayer hits exactly the right note.

Still, my top suggestion is Edwin Cole, borrowing the second syllable from your sister Nicole’s name for your son’s middle.

Readers, I can’t wait to hear your suggestions for this one: what unusual names come to mind for Devin’s firstborn?

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27 Comments

  1. Winter Colette is very beautiful, but if a child is called the lovely and unusual name Winter, especially if born at that time, it’s kind of sad to shorten it to Winnie or Win.

    Bram makes me think of Dracula, of course.

    Flyn is nice enough.

    I love Tristan for a boy.

  2. What about Adwen? Behind the Name says she was a Cornish saint.

    Eavan, like the Irish writer Eavan Boland, also comes to mind. Or Aideen?

    I also really like Edel on a girl, but I don’t think that one’s everyone’s taste.

  3. I’m afraid I agree that Edwin for a girl might cause a few problems – for me, it brings to mind Edwin Hubble, Edwin Droog and various Anglo-Saxon men.
    Some of these names might appeal (I’ll try to avoid repeats):

    ‘Winnie’ names:
    Aelfwynn
    Aelwen
    Alwen
    Anwen
    Arianwen
    Eilwen
    Eirwen
    Lowen, Lowenna
    Morwen
    Olwen
    Rhoswen

    Masculine/unisex names that might wear more easily on a girl than Edwin:

    Alwin, Alwynne
    Merryn
    Tarian
    Selwyn
    Windsor

    Other girls’ names:
    Eluned
    Emblyn
    Endlin
    Gwenore
    Isabeau
    Isolde
    Lenore
    Steren

    Boys’ name ideas:
    Angus
    Cormac
    Dawin
    Fergus
    Ivo
    Milo
    Rufus
    Theron
    Winslow
    Winston
    Windsor

  4. Why not Eirlys as the first name? Eirlys Lucinda would be a beautiful name for a girl.

    Other ideas:

    Eowyn
    Amoret
    Elodie
    Avalon
    Avonlea
    Ireland
    Winslet
    Winslow
    Emrys (also a boy’s name but feels a little more transferable than Edwin, which I’m afraid I just can’t see on a girl).

    1. I’m loving Eirlys too, especially with the connection to your wedding!

      For a girl, I’d pair it with Colette for the family connection.

      Colette Eirlys is lovely too. I don’t think Colette is going to be as popular as all the current Katelyn combinations we’re seeing in my daughter’s class (she’s in 2nd grade)

      I think Edwin for a boy would be awesome with the nickname Win! Edwin Cole seems like another great combination, if it’s ok to let go of Colette for any future girls you might have.

      Best of luck and congrats!

  5. Picking a name for your first child is a big responsibility and very stressful.

    I would strongly suggest not naming a girl Edwin or Lucien. These could be burdensome for the child and I suspect would, quite frankly, elicit a pretty negative response from others.

    Edwina and Lucienne are feminine variants that would wear well, though.

    I echo that both Edwin and Lucien would be great boy names. They are very handsome!

    Best wishes.

  6. I think Colette Lucinda would hit all the right criteria for you and honor multiple special people at the same time.

    I agree about Edwin on a girl although I do love the nn Winnie. Perhaps just name her Winnie or Wynn, nn Winnie? Or even Edwina.

    I know a few female Elliots so it doesn’t seem to have the same appeal for me.

    For a boy, I love Sullivan, nn Sully or Van, paired with a family middle. Maybe even your maiden name?

  7. For girls, what about Frances, Edie, Apolline, Ismene, Leonie or have you considered Edwina?

    For boys: Townsend, Ledger, Hartigan, Finnegan, Niko, Riordan

  8. Just had a thought. How is she planning to pronounce it? Is mom planning to pronounce it Ed-win or Eed-win? Because the latter definitely reads as more feminine/medieval to me. At that point its just a matter of spelling to clarify.
    Eadwyn vs Edwin
    Eadwyn Eirlys totally sounds like a medieval
    princess and I actually kinda love it.
    Edwin Eirlys sounds like the coolest boy in preschool.

    1. That’s a really good point – thank you! Eadwyn is very much a medieval princess name, and I agree – love Eadwyn Eirlys for a daughter.

  9. I think Edwina would be lovely for a girl and lends itself to some sweet nicknames. Winnie and Edie being the most obvious. Also really like Edwin for a boy. Definitely useable yet uncommon. However Edwin on a girl is a little too ‘A boy named Sue’ for my taste. If Edwina just isn’t it though I love the suggestion of Elowyn. Also wonder if Imogen would work?
    Imogen Eirlys
    Imogen Lucinda
    Imogen Colette