Name Help: A Brother for Norah


Name Help: A Brother for Norah

Name Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!

Sarah writes:

I am a lifelong name geek, so it is probably no surprise that my husband and I came up with baby names we liked fifteen years ago when we were dating: Elinore, nickname Ellie, and Tyler.

When our daughter was born five years ago, we named her Elinore (honoring my amazing great-grandmother, a homesteader and writer), and decided to call her Norah.

But then we gave her two middles and a hyphenated last name, and so six weeks after her birth we ditched the full name Elinore and legally changed her first name to Norah. We figured she didn’t need 5 names and a nickname. Her first and two middles manage to honor two family members, a river we love, a place we love, and two aspects of nature we love deeply, and feels very very us. Her name suits her perfectly.

We both had some intuition our next child would be another daughter, and we had a great list of beloved girl names picked out. At the top of the list was Maren, which feels spare and forthright and wonderful.

Well, surprise surprise, we’re expecting a boy in November! We’ve been absolutely stumped for names. Time feels like it is running out and though we’ve got a list, none of them feel right. And of course we’re doubting ourselves, having changed our daughter’s name a few weeks after her birth.

One option would be to go with Tyler, our original selection, though we’ve picked up a slight negative connotation with that time, and it now feels like a trendy name from 30 years ago, rather than timeless.

Other names on our list:

  • Family names – Robert, Henry, Clyde
  • Parts of nature we love – Calder, Moses, Cedar
  • Virtues – Shiloh, Solomon
  • Names we just like – Owen, William, Ian

My husband’s name is Benjamin, which I think is a delicious boy’s name with a classic down-to-earth, good-man sort of nickname, but I hate the idea that our child wouldn’t have a name of his very own.

I have read through endless name lists, pondered my favorite authors and protagonists, and made no progress. I don’t want to give this child a name that feels less perfect than his sister’s, but nothing feels like it carries the love and respect we put into her name. In short, nothing feels right.

Our hyphenated last name is two Scottish clans (3 syllables total), though actually the second half (my husband’s last name) was changed from the Polish by his great-grandfather.

We have one middle chosen, a three-syllable name starting with M that ties to nature.

We’re looking to avoid:

  • Another Scottish clan name
  • Names with less preferred nicknames

Help us please!

Please read on for my response, and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Dear Sarah –

Congratulations on your new baby on the way! And I’m sorry you’re feeling stuck. I do think naming is one of those parenting experiences that gets harder, not easier.

And yet, I think you’re on the right track. Because pretty much every name on your new (long) shortlist seems like at least a potential fit.

But let’s start with the name that doesn’t make the cut: Tyler.

Tyler might be Norah’s soccer coach. Even her teenage cousin. But he’s probably not her younger brother.

It peaked at #5 way back in 1994. As of last year, Tyler ranked #119. If it was, say, your beloved grandmother’s maiden name, or you’re a huge fan of Anne Tyler or Tyler Perry or maybe even Aerosmith, it’s different. But if Tyler just plain appealed to you a dozen years or more ago? No surprise that it’s faded over time, and here you are starting anew.

So let’s come up with a new list.

Bennett – In some ways, your daughter’s name mirrors your own: Sarah and Norah. So I wonder if you’d particularly like your son’s name to reflect his father’s? You don’t have to hand down Benjamin, but there are LOTS of great Ben names: Bennett would be my suggestion for you. But there’s also Benedict, Bentley, Ruben, Ben, Benson, Eben, and Benton. As a first or a second middle, it might be worth considering.

Calvin Calder is one of my favorite underused names. I want to push you to move it to the top of your list! Alas, that’s not happening for you. And so would you consider Calvin? It’s in the same sort of vintage revival category as Norah, but also reminds me of Clyde and maybe Solomon, too. Cal has the same approachable, upbeat sound as Ben, so that feels like another bonus.

Jonah – Shiloh comes with a great meaning, but it’s relatively uncommon as a given name. Jonah seems like a more familiar name with a similar style. Plus, it also conveys a virtue. The name means dove, the symbol for peace. The ‘o’ of Jonah reminds me of Owen, too, and again, there’s a friendly nickname built it: Joe.

Miles – Miles reminds me of Moses, but without the possible nickname Mo. I suspect I’ve met a few brother/sister pairs named Norah and Miles. They just feel very right together. Another thought: Miles might come from the Slavic name element milu – gracious. But it also feels like a modern virtue name, suggesting a journey.

Peter – Robert and Henry are family names, and both sound like logical brother names for Norah. William is another rock solid classic. But I wonder if you’d like a boy’s name that reads classic, but isn’t quite so common? When I meet young boys named Peter, they tend to use the name in full. But Pete seems like an appealing nickname, too.

Samuel – I think Sam is the ultimate brother name for Ben. And yes, Ben Affleck has a son named Sam. But they’re far from the only family with this combination. If you love everything about Ben but don’t want a repeat, Samuel-called-Sam might be the way to go.

Silas – So, you love the outdoors. And many of your names feel a little more old school. Plus, there’s the lovely S sound of Solomon. Put it together, and I wonder what you might think of Silas, which means forest, ultimately from the Latin Silvanus, which comes from silva, the woods.

Theo, Theodore – I suspect you’ve already considered Theo and Theodore, but I’ll mention it here anyway. Just as you opted for Norah instead of Elinore, you might name your son Theo and skip the formal version. It represents a midway point between, say, William and Shiloh.

I’m having a tough time coming up with a favorite. Maybe that’s because the name I want to suggest is already on your list: Henry. It’s a classic choice. While nicknames exist, we tend to default to the name in full, so no awkward nickname problems. And it’s very much at home with Norah.

Could it be something like: Henry Bennett M- LastName? Or maybe Henry Calvin M- Last Name?

I’m curious to hear what others think, too! What would you name a brother for Norah?

Name Help: A Brother for Norah

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16 Comments

On the surface this sounds a little bonkers but what about using Maren for a boy? It reminds me a lot of names like Madden and Mason and Maxmillian that are all beloved for boys and you clearly like it. The only downside I could see to this arrangement is that if you have another girl Maren is out but it’s not like it’s gone forever.

I like the thought of you using Benjamin as the middle if you don’t use Maren though.

I’m actually going a different route to Ms Abby here and going for a preppy surname/nickname –

Bowen – Bowen could go by Bo and it sounds great with Norah. It’s also pretty close to Benjamin while still giving him his own name Norah and Bowen Richard.

Avery – You didn’t say anything about Irish clan names. Avery reminds me a lot of Shiloh in the sense that they’re both Unisex and have a ethereal meaning. Norah and Avery Benjamin.

Reed – You like nature names and also reminds me of some of your boho picks like Moses. Norah and Reed Benjamin

Lowell – Great nicknames in Lo and Wells. Norah and Lowell Benjamin

Tucker – Tucker reminds a lot of Tyler but doesn’t have the association. My only thing is that Tuck isn’t the best nickname – it’s not bad but not great either. Norah and Tucker Benjamin

Jules – You chose a name you considered a nickname for number 1 so what about for number 2? Jules is often associatied with Julia but I think Jules Vernon famous author would say it isn’t just for girls. Norah and Jules Benjamin

Whitley – Whit is a great nickname and it sounds great with Norah. Norah and Whitley Benjamin

Chip – This one sounds crazy on the surface but I like it with Norah for the same reasons as Jules. Norah and Chip Benjamin

Vaughn – Vaughn is spunky and cool and doesn’t have any bad nicknames. My only complaint is that you can’t use Benjamin as a middle (unless you don’t mind the double ending then go for it). Norah and Vaughn Richard.

Overall I’m leaning towards Avery or Jules.

Some names you can spell using the letters of Robert, Henry, and Clyde [I found over 500 total, but only listed those here that I thought might fit; let me know if you’d like all of them, or more information on any of them]:

Terrence, Bentley, Brenden, Reynold, Terence, Berton, Blythe, Bronte, Bryony, Cherry, Conley, Hector, Holden, Lynden, Rodney, Theron, Torrey, Tyrone, Berry, Beryl, Brent, Brody, Bryce, Bryon, Byrne, Byron, Colby, Corey, Doyle, Ebony, Elder, Eldon, Elroy, Elton, Enoch, Errol, Heron, Holly, Honey, Leroy, Loren, Lorey, Lorne, Lorry, Nobel, Noble, Orren, Reece, Robyn, Royce, Ryder, Terry, Thorn, Torey, Torry, *Tyler, Boyd, Bret, Bron, Bryn, Cody, Cole, Colt, Cord, Cort, Cory, Deon, Eden, Hero, Holt, Hoyt, Leon, Lore, Lorn, Loyd, Lynd, Oben, Olen, Oren, Reed, Rory, Theo, Thor, Toby, Tony, Trey, Troy

Clyde and Calder make me suggest Clarence (Clarrie). Great meaning, traditional and unused today.

Silas and Tyler makes me suggest Cyrus.

Solomon and Shiloh, Simon and Elias, Ezra or Elijah

Clement, Ari, Ambrose,

Norah is such a beautiful name, and you have so many great boys names to choose from. Some other names that might fit:

Timothy
Harry
Elias
Alfred
Lachlan
Oliver
Noah

Nature-inspired names:
River
Forest
Sage
Everest
Sunny/Sonny
Leif
Robin

Good luck!

What about Simon?

It is as recognizable and understated as Benjamin, relatively nickname proof, and has a lot of the same sounds as the other names on your list. Shiloh and Clyde have the same strong I sound as in Simon. It ends similar to Soloman, and kinda Owen and Ian. It is two syllables which seems to be your sweet spot on names. And it fits with the family name style you list above… Robert, Henry, Clyde, William, (and Simon..). It sounds Scottish-ish without being over the top.

And I kind of love that it starts with S like Sarah, and ends in N like Ben. Plus Simon ends with “on” which is the inverse of the “no” from Norah. It is like you are all linked…. Same DNA.

Plus the meaning… The listener… Well a mama can dream right?!

Simon Robert M— (Scottish surname)

** linked by the same NAME dna…

And since I’m here…. In this day and age, does “the listener” count as a virtue name? I think perhaps it should.

Owen, Shiloh, and Solomon bring to mind Boaz.
Bo is a great nickname!
Bo and Ben seem balanced in the same way Norah and Sarah are balanced.

Boaz Clyde M- Hyphenated-surname

Best wishes!

Abby has some really great suggestions here. Depending on whether or not you’d use Maren for a future girl, you might tweak it slightly to arrive at Merritt.

Merritt AbbySuggestion M- HyphenatedLastName

Henry Calder M or Henry Jasper M called Hank
Samson Henry M called Sam: Samson means sun
Calder Benton M called Cal
Miles Henry M

Of the names already mentioned, I like Calder, Ezra, Henry (sound-wise it pairs nicely with Ben/Benjamin), and Jasper.

I really like Fraser. It’s a top 100 boy name in Scotland.The Fraser fir (native to the Appalachian Mountains) was name for Scottish botanist, John Fraser.

Other possibilities with nature connections: Dylan, Ford, Grant, Hayes, and Max/Maxwell (although Max followed by a middle name that starts with M might be awkward to say). Non-nature name options: Baxter and Griffin.

Norah and Fraser, Norah and Ezra, Norah and Grant, Norah and Henry, Norah and Jasper, and Norah and Max are my favorites.

Walden. You could call him Wally or Denny if you want, but Walden is such a solid name and reminds me of Calder in an artistic, natural and phonetic way. It feels like it kinda goes with trends (-en), but it’s not trendy. It’s almost a virtue name. It’s recognizable but he’s not gonna be one of 6 in his class. i tried and failed to get my SIL to use it (she went with Benjamin!). Someone name their dang kid Walden!!!

Norah is such a beautiful name and you have so many wonderful suggestions and current picks on your list to go off of!

Calder and Tyler make me think Jasper. It feels just right with Norah; a little more familiar than Calder, less trendy than Tyler. It’s a nature name as well!

Shiloh on your list and the suggestion of Jonah makes me think of Ezra. Ezra and Norah. Or maybe Isaac.

Owen and Shiloh make me think of Toby with the long O sound.

Owen, Ian, Henry make me think of Elliott, Emmett, Everett.

William and Calder make me think of Callum which means peace or dove like Jonah I believe. Might be too Scottish for you though.

Silas, Solomon, Peter, Henry make me think of Simon.

Out of your list and all the suggestions so far I really like Norah and Jasper, Norah and Calvin, Norah and Henry, Norah and Everett.