BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT

Megan writes:

We went with Cecilia Jane! It’s the perfect name. Olivia calls her Ceelee and we love that she could be Cece or C.J. if she wants to. So far everyone likes it and we haven’t met another Cecilia. Thanks to everyone for their help!

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WE LOVE OUR DAUGHTER’S NAME, BUT SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE

Megan writes:

We decided on our daughter’s name, Olivia Rose, immediately. I don’t even remember really talking about it as much as we just agreed.

She is now almost four and loves her name. We do too! But we also know lots of girls around her age with the same name – first and middle. Our last name is fairly common. (It’s a man’s name with an S at the end: R0ger$.)

I think when we were pregnant, we really didn’t know a lot of people with young children so we didn’t realize how common Olivia was.

With this baby, things are very different. We keep hearing names we like on the playground, or in our daughter’s school or something.

Names we have (maybe) ruled out for this reason, but that we do like:

  • Eloise, another girl in Olivia’s swim classes
  • Bella/Isabelle, Eliza, Sage, Piper, Annie, all good friends’ daughters
  • Evangeline, Chloe, Nora, all Olivia’s good friends in our neighborhood
  • Vera, Harlow, Grace – co-workers’ kids
  • Margot, the latest name we ruled out because my college roommate just had a baby Margot

We really liked Eloise, Margot, and Eliza.

Right now it’s like we’re almost afraid to choose another name because we immediately start checking to see who else used it!

Can you help us find a name that we will like as much as Olivia but isn’t taken?

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

FINDING SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FOR OLIVIA’S SISTER

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your second daughter!

I’m glad you described Olivia’s name the way you did: she loves her name, and so do you! Great names reach the top of the popularity charts because they’re, well, great names.

But I can appreciate that, if your daughter often shares her name, you might feel like something slightly less common would suit this new baby a little better.

It’s tricky, though. Think of it like turning a dial. Crank it up too high and your kid is explaining that Hephzibah is an Old Testament name, and yes, she can spell it again. But if you don’t twist it at all? Your girls are Olivia Rose and Charlotte Grace, and both of their (lovely) names repeat.

The good news is this: even a small adjustment can be surprisingly effective. Going through our friends and family with young children, I don’t know a single Isla, Luna, Scarlett, Ivy, or Naomi – all Top 50 names.

Of course, it’s also true that you can choose a relatively uncommon name and your child might still end up being one of two. Or more! We gave our son a Top 20 name. He never shared it with a classmate, but he eventually had a friend with the never-in-the-Top-250 name that I might’ve chosen instead. And they were in the same class through much of elementary and middle school. So … it’s funny how that all works out.

A SISTER FOR OLIVIA ROSE

Let’s look for names with the same romantic, flowing, feminine style as Olivia. But we’ll stick to choices beyond the current US Top 100, and we’ll also avoid names that shorten to a very popular nickname or sound. (For example, Lilia is rare, but it sounds more common thanks to the popularity of Lily, Lyla, and Liliana.)

My sense is that we’re also looking for something traditional-ish. You might not be able to use contemporary choices like Piper, Harlow, and Sage, but they’re not quite the same as Eliza, Eloise, and Margot.

My first draft of this list included Rosalie, a perpetual favorite. But it’s awfully close to Olivia’s middle. Annabelle also crossed my mind, but if Annie and Isabelle are both out, Annabelle is probably too close.

CECILIA

I love the feminine, traditional appeal of Cecilia, but it’s got plenty of spirit, too.

FRANCESCA

There’s something just the tiniest bit Italian about Francesca, and I think it’s great with Olivia.

GABRIELA, GABRIELLA

Gabriela – the Spanish, Portuguese, and Slavic spelling of the name – is less popular than Top 100 Gabriella. Both spellings work nicely as a sister for Olivia. Gabriella, especially, has been popular since the turn of the 21st century, but I still think it’s distinctive enough.

JULIETTE

Another name with two possible spellings. In this case, Juliette is more popular than Juliet. Like Olivia, Juliette has a quiet Shakespearean vibe, which makes the names perfectly matched.

MARIANA

Another elaborate, feminine choice.

PERSEPHONE

Penelope could be the perfect sister for Olivia, but since the name is a little popular, would you consider Persephone instead?

SERENA

Pretty, polished, and not quite as common as Olivia.

VIVIAN/VIVIANA/VIVIENNE

Vivian – or any of these variations – is a logical substitute for Olivia. In fact, I’d probably suggested Vivienne, as it’s possibly the most different from Olivia.

Overall, I’m going to suggest Vivienne for Olivia’s sister.

There’s some risk that you’ll end up with Liv and Viv. But in general, I think the shared V sounds are appealing, and I like the way Vivienne is every bit as traditional a name, but not nearly as common.

I wonder if you’d consider a middle name starting with M to honor mom? Vivienne Mae, Vivienne Marlowe, Vivienne Margot. (Unless you feel like choosing Margot as a middle is off-limits, too?)

If not Vivienne, I really like Cecilia. I think it matches the style of Olivia, but is just beyond the current Top 100, so much less likely to be shared. Cecilia Maeve would repeat the V sound, too!

Readers, over to you! What would you name a sister for Olivia Rose?

Sleeping baby girl wearing headband on light pink background; Welcome Cecilia Jane
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24 Comments

  1. I know Eliza and Eloise are off the table, but how about Elizabeth? It’s perennially popular and obviously very familiar, but it doesn’t feel trendy in the least. I think it complements Olivia well – four syllables and starting with a vowel, but otherwise it feels very distinctive.

    Similarly, what about Margaret instead of Margot? Veronica or Verity instead of Vera?

    Piper makes me think of Juniper, which I kind of love as a sister to Olivia.

    If you don’t mind matching initials, another O name could be a way to tie the sister’s names together while choosing something more unusual. Ophelia, Odette, Opal, Oriana, Octavia, Orla, Oona?

    And, finally, a few other suggestions that come to mind: Adelaide, Georgia, Harriet, Abigail, Claudia, Esther, Natalie, Hannah, Ingrid, Astrid, Geneva, Catherine, Michaela, Phoebe, Saskia, Dorothy or Dorothea

  2. Olivia and Eloise sound lovely together. They won’t always be in the same swim class together.

    Someone above mentioned my other suggestions:
    Olivia and Imogen
    Olivia and Matilda
    Olivia and Caroline
    Olivia and Audrey

    1. OH YES! I meant to add that … I can see that close friends’ kids’ names are off-limits, but some of these might be worth revisiting.

  3. If you like Eloise, just go for it! Just because someone’s on your daughter’s swim class with that name doesn’t mean you can’t have it too. If you had a niece with that name, well that would be different. I can also see avoiding a name with close friends. But someone in a class or a co-worker’s kid – who cares! Do you see that college roommate more than once or twice a year? If not, go for Margot!

  4. What about Cecily instead of Cecilia? It has a different ending while still being very pretty … almost an alternative for Emily. Emily would be lovely too, or maybe Emmeline?

  5. Hi-

    I wanted to add a few more names:

    Tatiana
    Imogene
    Matilda
    Georgina or Georgiana
    Calliope
    Xanthe (I know this is 2 syllables & I recommend 3, but I think this is a cool name.)
    Cosima
    Henrietta

  6. I also felt like my eldest’s name was too popular, but trying to find something less common actually backfired on us. Long story short, find something you LOVE and try not to care too much about overlap with a kid in a class who you may not even remember in 5 years.

    My second was almost Margot and I love Eliza and Eloise, so here are others I adore and I think would go well with big sister. I also like Juliette on Abby’s list, and Louisa and Delilah were my first thoughts for you (just different enough from Eloise and Eliza.)

    Ellery
    Genevieve
    Josephine
    Wilhelmina
    Meredith
    Bianca
    Lucia

    If you’re big nickname people, there are so many fun options out there. The only Olivia I know in my larger circle goes by Livvy so if that’s also one you use, it kinda rules out Lily, Vivi..

    Good luck!

  7. Violet
    Fiona
    Diana
    Luella
    Sienna
    Louise
    Tessa
    Pearl
    Georgia
    Zara
    Melanie
    Phillipa
    Beatrice
    Madeline
    Camille
    Victoria
    Hazel

    Middle names:
    Hope
    Elise
    Daisy
    Lucy
    Claire

  8. Here are my suggestions without looking at the column, so some might be repetitive:

    Anastasia
    Annalise
    Bianca
    Calista/Callista
    Cassandra
    Cataleya
    Christiana
    Elena
    Eliana/Elliana
    Eliza
    Elora
    Elowen
    Felicity
    Gianna
    Juliana
    Juliet/Juliette
    Katerina
    Liliana
    Mariah
    Melina, Milena
    Penelope
    Seraphina
    Sienna
    Susannah

    1. I’ll add some advice. Take a look at the 2023 popularity list on the Social Security website. There are separate lists for each state, which will tell younwhat names are popular in your part of the country. They differ a bit depending on cultural groups in different states. Once you’re out of the top 10, the names really aren’t as common as you might think. Some naming expert I once read advised that the sweet spot is actually in the top 500 or maybe even the top 300. Those are the names people are pretty familiar with and like but don’t hear every day. The 500th name on the list last year was used 610 times and the 300th name was used1,026 times. So, using those criteria, I’m also going to suggest:

      Aurelia
      Calliope
      Carolina
      Celine
      Colette
      Esme
      Frances
      Hope
      Lillian
      Lorelai
      Rosemary
      Tessa

      Some other names like Amanda and Melissa also fall into that range and still sound really pretty. They’re familiar, pretty, well liked names that aren’t going to be shared with other girls. You’ll probably find a lot of names on that popularity list that you like a lot.

  9. Hi! I really like all the names Abby suggested, but I am just including some more that may fit your style.

    Evelina
    Virginia
    Susannah
    Antonia
    Eleanor
    Louisa
    Helena
    Celestine
    Diana
    Cordelia
    Delilah
    Sabrina

    I think my favorite from this list is Cordelia, but I really like all of them for you! Since Olivia is four syllables, I think at least a 3 syllable name for her sister would work best. And maybe a short middle to match with Rose…something like Grace or Dove.

    Best wishes!!

    Cristina