Name Help: A Sibling for Wren, Mira + OrinName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

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Bonnie writes:

My husband and I take a long time picking out our kids’ names. Our three kids (two girls and a boy) are getting a brother or sister soon; we won’t find out which.

Our daughters are Wren Olivia and Mira Belle. Our son is Orin Scott.

I need help settling on a girl and boy name.

Names we sort of like, but haven’t quite clicked are:

  • Dune, Remi, Lark, and Gavin for boys
  • Mavis, Rue, Eden, Reina, Aya, Anya, and Serena for girls; we also like Moira, but maybe it’s too similar to Mira?

Our last name is one syllable, with a long A sound.

Thanks for your input!

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Abby replies:

Congratulations on baby four!

I love the way your kids’ names feel current, but a little different, too.

Once a family has two or three kids, it’s so tempting to see patterns – even when they’re not planned. Or meaningful! Or necessary to continue.

But it does strike me that your kids all have four-letter names with an R sound: Wren, Mira, Orin.

Moira feels much too similar to Mira. Lark would be, I think, very close to Wren. (Not impossibly so, if it were your absolute first choice. But since it’s not, my inclination is to drop it from your list.)

While you haven’t mentioned popularity – and I don’t think it should necessarily be a dealbreaker – I’m tempted to drop Gavin and Eden because they’re both fairly common.

That leaves Mavis, Rue, Reina, Aya, Anya, and Serena for girls, and Dune and Remi for boys.

Before we go any farther, let’s talk about Remi.

Sometimes trends catch up to us as our families grow. That happened with Wren, right?

Something similar is happening with Remi. I expect this spelling – with the I – to break into the girls’ Top 100 soon. It’s less common for boys, but still rising in use. That said, the spelling Remy is more popular for boys and, again, will almost certainly be more common in the future.

I’m tempted to ask if Remi/y is an option for a daughter, too? But with the caveat that it would probably be the name most likely to be shared.

A SISTER FOR WREN, MIRA, and ORIN

Anya, Aya, Mavis, Serena, Reina, and Rue all seem like great options. I’m particularly drawn to Rue for your family. It hits the same familiar, not common, note. Or maybe Anya?

If not any of these, would you consider something like:

BRIA – We’ve gone through years of Brianna and Leah, but Bria sounds like an expected choice that’s not too much like either of those former favorites.

DELIA – I’d say Delia falls midway between antique Mavis and romantic Serena.

EDIE – It’s rarer than Eden, but plenty wearable.

LEDA – Or Lita, Lida, or Leta? Like Mira, it’s the kind of name we feel like we should know, but can’t quite place.

RITA – Delightfully old school, Rita shares sounds with Reina and Rue, but also seems similar to Mira.

SCOUT – Like Wren, it’s a word name with a fresh, adventurous spirit.

VITA – Or maybe Vida. Both come from the Latin words for life. Vitus is a Latin name; Vito, a masculine staple in Italian. But Vita/Vida feels nicely unexpected in English.

ZORA – It’s tempting to suggest Cora, but that’s maybe too common compared to your other children’s names. Thora is a little out there. But Zora? It feels just right.

A BROTHER FOR WREN, MIRA, and ORIN

I do think Dune is perfect, but if it’s not quite right, maybe:

ARLO – Currently a Top 200 choice and rising, but Arlo just sounds perfect with Wren, Mira, and Orin. Also, all four names contain an R, are exactly four letters, and have a different ending sound. If such things matter …

FORD – A surname name with a certain Americana vibe.

GREY – Would a color name appeal? It can also be spelled Gray.

RAFE – Rafe is smooth and strong, and just a little unexpected.

RIDGE – Word names, and nature names, keep coming up, like Wren and Dune. So maybe Ridge is worth a look?

RORY – If Remi isn’t quite right, maybe Rory would appeal?

TRUE – True is a modern virtue name possibility with some history. Currently, Tru – hold the E – ranks in the boys’ Top 1000.

ZEKE – A little retro, Zeke is probably a slightly more mainstream choice than Dune, but still nicely different.

I keep coming back to names like Rita/Vita and Rory/Zeke.

Maybe the first question is whether the pattern matters to you at all? I’m guessing it does not, but it might help you rule out (or in) some name possibilities.

Readers, over to you! What would you name a sibling for Wren Olivia, Mira Belle, and Orin Scott?

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15 Comments

  1. Some names that I haven’t seen suggested yet:

    Amos
    Silas
    Lewis
    Athol

    Laurel
    Stella
    Ayla
    Nell

    Also love the suggestion of Fleur.

  2. Wren, Mira, Orin, and…

    For a boy:
    Reef
    Rex
    Rune
    Tarn
    Dash
    Dart
    Zev
    Neal
    Moss
    Bard
    Hugh
    Oak

    For a girl:
    Clary
    Isola
    Zora (excellent suggestions by Abby!)
    Pearl
    June

    Congratulations and best wishes!
    Please let us know what you decide. You’re great namers!

  3. I like continuing the pattern of short names (4 is great, but 3 or 5 letters would be okay) that have an R in common.

    Pulling from previous suggestions and some of my own, for a boy, I like:

    Arlo
    Grey — I’m not sure how the long A sound in Grey (and Ray and Trace below) would sound with the long A in your last name. Also, not sure if Grey could become an adjective when paired with your last name, as in Grey Day.
    Ray
    Rhys
    Roy
    Trace
    Troy

    For a girl:
    Carys
    Clare
    Merry — could present the same adjective-noun issue mentioned above.
    Iris
    Piper
    Zara

    Best wishes to you!

  4. I think Arlo is absolutely the perfect name for a son. Rory and Ford are also very cute. I also thought of Errol which is a little out there but I think matches Wren, Mira & Oren really well. I also met a little boy named Errol once and it seemed very wearable to me. Also maybe Felix?

    For a daughter, I love Vita,Viva, Vida as an option. I also thought Cleo/Clio, Opal, Iris, Honor, or Blythe would go beautifully with your other children!

  5. Lyra would be great! What about Vera or Fern for a girl? Sage for either a boy or girl. Milo, Knox, Dean for boys (if you don’t mind one syllable.

  6. I’d elongate Rue to Rumi because Ren (Wren) and Rue (and especially Ren & Remi) are too close to my ear.

    I’m usually ALL about continuing all the patterns, but I think a lot of names with Rs start to overlap with the existing sibset sounds. Like OR/RO too close to Orin (no Rory), RA too close to Mira (Lyra is beautiful but I feel like people would second guessing who’s Myra or Mira and Lyra or Leera), anything starting with R (especially one syllable – no Rue, Reed) too close to Wren.

    I do like the 4 letters as a fun challenge! But what strikes me most looking at your sibset is the nature / meaning theme – it’s in your face with Wren (songbird), but subtle with Mira (ocean or peace or wonder) and Orin (laurel or pine tree.) and your name too – Bonnie!

    So on your list I like that Dune is both evocative and rounds out the only syllable names (or how about Cove?!?) On Abby’s list I like Scout but I’d move it to the boy side for this sibset! (Although Orin’s middle might make it unusable altogether?) Aya is my favourite from your girl list.

    Of the comments so far I think Iris and Echo are lovely! Other more obvious nature names to round out Wren – Vale, West, Quay; Skye, Hope, Saga.

    Four letters with beautiful meaning – Neve, Vega, Noga; Crew, Avel, Elio.

    Just beautiful with the sibset – Zelie, Alula, Fleur, Elara, Loyal, Twain, Cosmo, Atlas.

  7. There’s a lot of repeat sounds between your kids’ names and current favorites. Remi, Rue, Eden, and Reina are all too close to Wren for me. Gavin seems pretty close to Orin. And Mira and Moira seem too close too. However Wren and Orin seem very close so maybe that’s not an issue for you.

    For girls, I’d be curious what you think of Isolde, Edith, Aida, Alba/Alva, Ebba/Edda, Sybil, Oona, or Echo.

    For a boy, maybe Ingram, Eamon, Callum, Perrin, Dara/Darragh, Roald, or Gannon.

  8. Loving your names and the boy suggestions here: Arlo, Ford, Grey, True, Rory, which the last three could go boy or girl in my mind. Lyra is a beautiful suggestion. I love Remi/y, how about Romy for a girl? Freya, Fern, Rhys or Rex also jump out at me. Good luck!

  9. I also noted the use of R and 4 letters.
    WREN, MIRA, and ORIN….
    Aya…. I see a possible option in Lyra I think a Wren, Mira, Orin and Lyra sounds fab together
    Iris
    Fern
    Zara

    Boys
    Ryka
    Roma
    Reed

    No r but good options in my opinion
    Hugo
    Luca
    Opal