welcome Willow Jordan and Wren PalmerUPDATE: They’re here! K writes “We couldn’t let go of the idea of honoring Sophia and Helen, but also felt like changing the names to make them flow better wasn’t the same. Then a friend suggesting using their LAST names for our daughters’ middle names, Willow Jordan and Wren Palmer. We love their names so much, and I really like we did something more daring than Elizabeth and Marie. Thanks to everyone for their encouragement!”

K writes:

We are expecting twin daughters in September, but we expect that they could arrive in August, or even sooner.

My partner and I agreed on Willow as our girl name. Our boy name was probably River (or maybe Finn). We didn’t have a second girl name idea, but a friend suggested Wren at the baby shower, and we fell in love with the idea.

We love to hike and camp and be outside, so we don’t think Willow and Wren are too much together. But it would be good to hear from others.

We would also like some ideas for middle names.

My partner and I have a new last name, made by combining sounds from both our surnames. (It sounds like Cartley with an H.) So there’s not a last name from either of us that we’d want both girls to share.

We have considered:

  • Elizabeth and Marie – No reason. Just names that lots of people have as middle names.
  • Sophia and Helen – Two very important people in our lives, but we don’t like the way Helen sounds with Wren or Willow, and we do like the way Sophia sounds with both. (And we wouldn’t use Sophia without Helen, if that makes sense.)
  • River and Finn – Because we probably won’t have any more children, maybe we could use our boy names? I like Wren River and Willow Finn, but my partner isn’t convinced.

Everyone has ideas, and we now joke about it. (Willow Bert and Wren Ernie. Willow Gertrude and Wren Bertha.) But it’s getting closer now, and it’s making me anxious to not have this settled.

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your new arrivals!

I wonder if the challenge is this: we tend to think of twins as a matched set.

Should we? Probably not.

But our brains like handy shortcuts. And so, even though I know without a doubt that the twins in my family are completely separate individuals with different preferences and personalities … I still mentally think of them as “the twins.”

Choosing names like Wren and Willow reinforces that sense of being a pair – shared initial, similar style, both meanings drawn from the natural world.

And yet, I think they’re perfect choices. They’re great sibling names, and it seems like they fit your lifestyle, too.

But it feels like you’re trying to do something similar with their middle names – find a coordinating set of names. If that works again, fabulous! In this case, though, it sounds like it’s upping the difficulty level.

Instead, let’s think about it as two separate fill-in-the-blank challenges.

  • Wren _____ Cartley-with-an-H
  • Willow ____ Cartley-with-an-H

Now let’s see if we can fill in the blanks with names that are compatible, but not paired in any obvious way.

I’ll separate my suggestions by style, more or less.

CLASSIC MIDDLES

  • Wren Eleanor and Willow Vivian
  • Wren Caroline and Willow Katherine
  • Wren Amelia and Willow Evelyn

CURRENT MIDDLES

  • Wren Avery and Willow Kenley
  • Wren Eloise and Willow Esme
  • Wren Haven and Willow Blair

DARING MIDDLES

  • Wren Arietta and Willow Adair
  • Wren Callisto and Willow Clemence
  • Wren Cosima and Willow Delphine

I think the first question is this: Does one of those categories broadly appeal to you more than the others?

There are some positives – as well as some downsides – to every choice. And the designations between classic/current/daring are a little arbitrary.

I’m particularly drawn to middles that balance the syllable count: three syllables for Wren and two for Willow, for example.

But hopefully looking at those lists gives you a sense of what feels like the best direction for your family.

In brief:

  • Classic Middles ground the very current firsts you’ve chosen. Katherine and Evelyn could be from nearly any decade, and that timeless quality adds a strong, enduring quality to your daughters’ names.
  • Daring Middles really make those first names standout. Chances are your daughters will meet another Wren or another Willow, but probably not another Wren Cosima or Willow Adair.
  • Current Middles split the difference. Many parents tend to choose more Classic Middles, regardless of their first name style. So the odds of meeting a Wren Eloise are closer to the chances of meeting a Wren Callisto.

And, of course, if you realize that you prefer three-syllable middle names that begin with E, well, Wren Eloise and Willow Evelyn are gorgeous. Nothing says you have to pick both middles from the same category.

If all of this has your head spinning, I’d suggest sticking with the more classic choices.

Which brings me to my final suggestion: would it be possible to alter the names Sophia and Helen just a little?

Because if that’s an option?

  • Wren Sophie and Willow Helene
  • Wren Helena and Willow Sophia
  • Wren Sophia and Willow Elena

I think Wren Sophie and Willow Helene are my top choice, if only because it alters both names slightly, and somehow that makes it feel more equitable. Or possibly Wren Helena and Willow Sophie, because it alters both names and gives Wren that one extra syllable.

If tweaking the honor names isn’t an option, I’m most drawn to Caroline and Katherine, or maybe Eloise and Esme, especially if Caroline and Katherine feel a little too traditional.

Readers, over to you! What would you suggest as middle names for Wren and Willow?

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16 Comments

  1. I second the need for different middle initials. Otherwise credit bureaus have issues. Especially with the same date of birth and likely similar SSN numbers because they will be issued at the same time. Untangling credit problems of one twin that is transferred to the other is not a good recipe for sibling harmony!

    If you want similar do similar sounds G and J work.

    Willow June/Jett/Josephine and Wren Genevieve/Ginger/Georgia

    Or L versus El

    Willow Louise/Lucy/Lily and Wren Elowen/Eloise/ Eliza

    Or C and K

    Willow Kate and Wren Claire

  2. Not keen on Wren Helena because of the repeated en sound and because I don’t like the identical middle and final initials. I’d choose Willow Rosalind and Wren Juliet – Shakespearean beauties!

  3. “Wren River” may not be a combination your partner loves, but alternatives could be:

    … Wren Piper — Piper sounds current to me, because there are plenty of “Harpers” and “Junipers” where I have been.
    … Wren Sophie — I second the honor name w/ a twist in the variant of the name.
    … Wren Adelaide — Classic, but possibly unexpected with the first name! Sounds great with your last name too.

    As for “Willow Helena”, I think it sounds great with your family’s last name.

    “Willow Helena & Wren Adelaide” perhaps?

  4. Willow and Wren are lovely together!

    Willow Grace and Wren Marie: I love Wren Marie because it has the same sound as the beautiful character named Reine-Marie Gamache from Louise Penny’s novels.
    Willow Jean and Wren Jolie
    Willow Eve and Wren Elizabeth
    Willow Irene and Wren Isabel

    The matching first and middle initials of the last three suggestions is likely less than ideal.
    Willow Eve and Wren Isabel or Willow Irene and Wren Jolie pair nicely.
    Willow Claire and Wren Elizabeth go well together also.

    Best wishes to you!

  5. I was coming here agreeing that tweaking your honour names would be perfect! Your surname is a tweak so why not?

    Wren Sofia
    Willow Helena

    I actually like 1-3-2 for Wren’s syllables and 2-1-2 or 2-3-2 for Willow. I have a 2-2-2 name and it’s always felt… less melodic?

    Or use you and your partners initials for each middle?! Example: Wren Rosalind and Willow Kit! (have no idea what your partner’s initial is just love good alliteration 😉

    I like the twin names together because they sound different. Wren is an R sound. Congrats!

  6. I love Wren River and Willow Finn maybe Willow Quinn

    I also really like the suggestion of Wren Helena and Willow Sophie

    Wren

  7. The new last name you came up with is a family last name for me, and my brother’s first name. He rarely meets another one–maybe 4 times in his life.
    Congrats on the twins! I have nothing to add on middle names; I think many of these suggestions are lovely.

  8. Please give them separate middle initials. Please. They need something to convince SSA that they are separate people. I used to work in banking; trust me on this.

    I came to suggest Elena as an alternate to Helen. Helene or Helena works well too.

    Classic: Wren Elizabeth and Willow Marie
    Current: Wren Hadley and Willow Sade’ (like the singer)
    Daring: Wren Zephyr and Willow Phoenix

  9. Loving Willow and Wren as a twin set. Especially as they are both W names but not both said as the W sound.

    My naming diva self really want to see something super frilly and multi syllabic in the middle….
    Wren Aurelia
    Willow Seraphine
    But I suspect that isn’t your style.

    My logical self says flip on that and choose something strong and classic that rolls off the tongue if they’re making mischief….
    Willow Kate
    Wren Charlotte