Name Help: 4th girl & out of namesName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!

Nicole writes:

We have three beautiful daughters, and recently found out that – surprise! – we’re expecting a fourth. It’s another girl. When it comes to names we have two problems: first, we don’t really have any names left that we like. Plus, we always seem to choose names that end up being the next big thing.

Our 10 y.o. is Amelia Rose, followed by 7 y.o. Evelyn Grace, and 5 y.o. Stella Marie.

We still like all of the names, but it’s frustrating to hear every new baby at church or in our neighborhood called Amelia, Evelyn, or Stella.

Names we’re considering this time include:

  • Eloise and Adelaide (but we don’t really want to repeat an initial)
  • Cecilia (but does it sound too much like Amelia)
  • Violet, Hazel (but already very popular)
  • Charlotte (ruled out because of popularity)

Our last name starts with a K, and is shared by the 35th President. No relation! But the JFK connection means that we can’t really use ends-in-y names, though I loved Lucy and Ruby before I met my husband. Also, names of famous family members are out – so no to Caroline.

We aren’t big on nicknames.

Any great ideas?

Dear Nicole –

Congratulations on your new daughter!

I think many parents struggle with this problem. When we start picking out names, we’re ahead of the curve. But then the world catches up, and our favorites suddenly feel so popular. Plus, the names we’ve already used tend to rule out others, like Amelia and Cecilia.

Let’s start with a few general thoughts:

  • The most popular names rise so high because, well, they’re great names! But they don’t get there overnight. I’d guess that your 10 y.o. Amelia rarely shares her name with a girl her own age, and not often with older girls. But babies? Yeah. Betting there are a lot of baby Amelias out there. My sense has always been that people are happy to have rising names – names that gained in popularity after they were born. Who doesn’t want to be a trendsetter?
  • You might be able to avoid your child having a very popular name by choosing something from much higher up the popularity charts – at least for a while. Wait a decade or so, and many choices that match your preferred style may catch on.
  • I wonder if you’d like to focus on names that don’t end in a? Amelia, Evelyn, Stella … it might be nice to choose a name – like Hazel or Violet – that has a different ending sound.

Okay, let’s jump into some suggestions.

Beatrice – A late nineteenth and early twentieth century favorite, Beatrice teetered on the verge of extinction for years. Now the name is staging a slow comeback. It still falls outside of the current US Top 500, but it feels like a match for Amelia, Evelyn, and Stella. Bonus? No repeating initials! (In fact, I’ve avoided A, E, and S throughout this list.)

Gemma – Gemma seems very similar to #1 favorite Emma, and yet the soft G sound makes it entirely different. The name has gone from completely unknown to the Top 300 over the last decade; and yet, I think it remains just under-the-radar enough.

Georgia – Everybody recognizes the name Georgia, and nearly everyone likes it, too. Despite that fact, Georgia’s march to the top continues at a slow, steady pace. It’s just inside of the current Top 250. Like Beatrice, everyone knowns the name, but not everyone is choosing it.

Josephine – If your daughters Amelia, not Mia, and Evelyn, not Evie, then maybe you can have a Josephine, not Josie or Fifi or Fina or Jo. I really like this name in full. It’s not far outside of the current Top 100, so Josephine might be the next Amelia.

Lena – Spare, sleek, and portable, Lena hides in plain side. We all know famous women by the name (Dunham, Horne), and it reminds us of faded favorites like Gina and Tina. But Lena remains versatile, modern, and very wearable. It’s in the current Top 300, like Gemma, which seems a nice place for a familiar, but seldom heard, choice.

Louisa – Literary Louisa recently returned to the US Top 1000 after several decades’ absence. That puts Louisa in the same barrel as Beatrice. Everyone knows it, but relatively few of us have named a child Louisa lately. For an even rarer name, you might consider Louise. Both remind me of Eloise from your list, but sidestep the repeating initials question and give you a less popular name.

Mabel – If you like Hazel, maybe you’ll love Mabel. It’s another name long out of fashion, but recently returned. Mabel is still outside of the current Top 500, but sounds exactly like a sister for Amelia, Evelyn, and Stella.

Matilda – Or maybe Matilda? Like Amelia, it’s a longer name that can easily be nicknamed – but requires none. It’s regal, like Charlotte, and vintage, like all of the names that you love. It also falls just beyond the current Top 500.

Overall, I most like the idea of Beatrice or Louise – even though it isn’t technically on my list above. Josephine also calls to me, but I’m ambivalent about using a nickname-rich name like Josephine when you’re not wild about them. Because children do grow up and decide that they’d rather be Josie or Jo … would that bother you?

Readers, I’d love to hear your suggestions of vintage names that feel undiscovered? Or at least are yet to take over the playgrounds!

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34 Comments

  1. My girls are Harriet and Susannah. Both seem to fit in the familiar /vintage/classic categories and yet they’re the only ones in their school. We worried about Susannah being shortened … didn’t particularly like any of the nicknames, except maybe Anna/Annie…but it has not been an issue at all.

    Best wishes!

  2. Love all the names and suggestions so far. I particularly like:
    Lenora
    Vera
    Viola

    My only additional contribution would be:
    Delilah
    Congrats!

  3. Sigh. I love your girl names!!

    What are your thoughts on Juliet? We have one and absolutely love her name.

    Brigitte?

    If you are looking for something that is not as popular but is an old classic, what about Pearl?? I sooo love this name.
    Amelia, Evelyn, Stella, and Pearl. Sigh. To my ears this is perfect.

    Instead of Adelaide, what about Emmeline?

    Oh, if you like Violet, what about Viola?

    Ohhhh…… what about Vera? Vera Lennedy(with a K) sounds fabulous!

    As a sibling set, I prefer names that have “L”s in them as the other three girls are heavy on L-sounds. Really loving Pearl and Viola.

    Good luck!

  4. If I had your last name and was expecting a girl, I’d be considering: Lilian, Lila, Isobel, Isla, Moira, Juliet, Maeve, Iris

  5. Lydia!!! Seems perfect to me.
    From your list, I love Hazel.
    I agree that ends in y is fine, and I think Lucy sounds great.
    Or maybe Daisy? Or Lila? Or Grace?

  6. Harriet, Juliet, Margaret, Collette, Lauren, Nadine, Natasha, Natalie, Liza, Eliza, Sabrina, Celeste, Celine, Selena, Hayley, Delilah, Elaine, Layne, Lainie, Audrey, Martha

  7. Amelia, Evelyn, Stella, and…

    What a fun puzzle!!!

    Beatrice is an excellent idea. Excellent.

    Otherwise, how do you feel about Geneva? Or Genevieve?

    Marian might meet your needs.

    Celine has the same certain elegance as your other girls’ names. It is similar to Cecilia but without being matchy-matchy.

    Rosalind could go well, too! She’s Shakespearean and classic while sitting nicely below the radar.

    Congratulations and best wishes as you welcome your fourth lady!!

  8. What about :

    Clarice
    Daphne
    Florence
    Hester
    Jacinta
    Laurel
    Lenore – Lenora
    Loïs
    Margot
    Merritt
    Odette
    Victoria