Name Help: A Sister for Prudence "Rue" MaryName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

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Britt writes:

Our daughter is Prudence Mary. I thought we’d call her Prue, but it quickly became Roo and now Rue. People said the most horrible things about her name when I was pregnant, saying Prudence was awful and she’d hate us for it. But of course, we loved it then and feel like it’s perfect for her – even my mom has come around. Besides, we know our people by how they react when they hear Rue’s full name!

Now our second daughter will be here around Valentine’s Day. We want another name that’s somewhere between a Pilgrim and a Golden Girl – old-fashioned but still sassy. It’s totally fine if jaws drop when they hear it, too.

Our last name sounds like Superman’s first name: Cl@rk.

Our list so far:

  1. Georgette – because I love the sound of Rue and Jet! But we know a few girls named Georgia. And I feel like this is really about Jet (Jette? Gette?) more than it is about Georgette, if that makes sense.
  2. Henrietta – love Hettie, feels like this should be the front-runner but I’m not there
  3. Marguerite – except not Maggie or Margo for short, and not sure where that leaves us
  4. Millicent – would be the name, except Millie is very common, and I can’t imagine another nickname, but maybe it will come?
  5. Miriam – a little too popular? Miri and Midge are such good nicknames, but less sure about Midge after the Barbie movie. (Full disclosure: Miriam “Midge” is from The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Prime. Would that be weird?)
  6. Philippa – Too British? Too Middleton? Except Rue and Pip/Pippa are so good together.
  7. Winifred – Except Winnie is kind of like Millie, plus we have a niece named Winter, and don’t want to be accused of stealing her name.

We think her middle name will be Katherine, but we might shorten it to Kate or even Kay/Kaye if that works better.

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your second daughter!

And, OH how I love what you said about knowing you’ve found your people by how they react to your daughter’s name! I often feel like I’ve found my people when they hear their kids’ names, so I totally get this.

Okay, now let’s get to work.

The thing about Prudence “Rue” Mary is that it’s not fluffy. Not even a little! Prudence can feel a little severe, though I hear “Dear Prudence” in my head and instead it feels softer, but still serious. And so lots of underused vintage gems don’t seem like a match. Take Araminta, for example – it doesn’t quite work. They could be sisters in the right time period, but it’s not the same vibe – even if Rue and Minnie or Mint do hit the right note together.

Other choices, like Ludovica, seem a little closer – but more like romance language imports than names of English newcomers to the Massachusetts Bay Colony.

The right name has to nail down both qualities – the significance of a strong, enduring, but seldom-heard first name with a playful, even whimsical nickname that, again, is uncommon.

That could rule out Millicent and Winifred, because I agree – Millie and Winnie are fairly popular and likely to gain in use.

Let’s take a minute and evaluate your current list first.

A SISTER FOR PRUDENCE “RUE” MARY: CURRENT FAVORITES

7. GEORGETTE

I tend to agree – Jet/Jette and Rue are amazing together! But it’s not ideal to choose a name solely for its short form, and I can see that Georgette might feel like it blends in with Georgia.

6. MARGUERITE

A personal favorite! And yet … I think it might be a little frillier than Prudence. Nickname possibilities abound, but I’m not sure which matches Rue. Gigi? I’ve heard Rhett suggested for Margaret, but I don’t think it works as well with Marguerite. And so I, too, reluctantly put Marguerite farther down on the list.

5. HENRIETTA

Hettie is fabulous, particularly with Rue. But I think this might be another case of a slightly frillier name not quite working as well with Prudence. (Maybe Henrietta is Araminta’s sister!)

4. MILLICENT

I think I might’ve suggested this name if you hadn’t already put it on your list, and yet … Millie is very familiar. It’s also similar to Molly and Ellie and Lily, which makes it feel even more common. It’s perfect, but … Rue would definitely have the cooler nickname!

3. WINIFRED

Winifred’s issue is similar to the challenges with Millicent. It’s worth noting that Winnie only ranks in the 500s, which is still fairly uncommon. I’d be inclined to rank it higher except a niece named Winter gives me pause.

2. PHILIPPA

I’m sold on Rue and Pip, too! The good news: Pippa Middleton makes the Philippa/Pippa combination familiar. The bad news? It’s strongly associated with her and her royal sister. Because Prudence isn’t particularly British, I don’t think this is a deal breaker. But do you like Philippa … or mostly the nicknames?

1. MIRIAM

This name leapt off the page at me. While Miriam has never left the US Top 1000 and currently ranks in the Top 300, I still think it’s a contender. It has the same vibe as Prudence – feminine, tailored, strong, serious. And those nicknames! I don’t think Midge’s use by The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is a problem. Odds are it will be little-known around the time your Miriam starts school. (It wasn’t exactly a children’s show.) The Barbie movie, though? That gives me pause, if only because Midge is kind of a punchline. (And Midge isn’t new – the doll was introduced way back in 1963.) But there’s still Miri, along with my personal favorite, Mimi. And so Miriam Kate called Mimi or Mim tops my list of sister names for Prudence “Rue” Mary.

But I had so much fun thinking up new ideas that I want to share those, too!

FRESH IDEAS FOR PRUDENCE “PRUE” MARY’S SISTER

AGNES

Like Prudence, it’s a name often overlooked and not ranked in the current US Top 1000. That’s also true for Agatha. Both names share Aggie, but Agnes also has Ness/Nessa/Nessie, and I love the sound of Rue and Ness, so it makes my list.

ANTONIA

Literary and polished, Antonia has history to spare. And while Toni strikes me as a rather dated nickname, Antonia could also shorten to Ana or Anya. I think Anya hits exactly the right note. Prudence and Antonia sound like sisters, both active in the women’s suffrage movement back in the day, and Rue and Anya sound like the names they’d use when writing long letters to each other.

BERNADETTE

Every bit as substantial as Prudence, Bernadette is a name for a woman of accomplishment. And it comes with so many great nickname options. Rue and Bette or Rue and Betty is my top choice.

CONSTANCE

How hard do you want to lean into the whole Puritan virtue name vibe? Because Prudence and Constance are exactly right together, plus Constance can shorten to Coco. Rue and Coco together are beyond perfect! Cece might be another option, especially since your last name starts with C.

FREDERICA

I’m debating whether Frederica is too fussy. But I think it’s the right kind of familiar, but mostly unused name. Plus nicknames include Freddie, Red, and maybe even Flick (though that’s more of a Felicity/Florence nickname.)

GERTRUDE

One of my first thoughts was Gertrude, with the sweet nickname Trudy/Trudie. But then I heard it: Trudy, True, Rue … super similar! And I’m not as confident in Gertie/Gert as a nickname.

HESTER

If Henrietta is too much, how ’bout Hester? It’s an old school take on Esther. Yes, there’s The Scarlet Letter, but that drives home that it’s every bit as much Plymouth Rock as Prudence. Bonus: nickname Hetty/Hettie works for Hester, too.

IMOGEN

British like Pippa, plus with nicknames Immy, Gen, and even Mo/Moe!

ROSAMOND

Elegant and refined, Rosamund shortens to the sparky Romy. Born Rosemarie, the legendary actress Romy Schneider lends this name some glam.

SYBIL

I almost suggested Wilhelmina with the nickname Billie. Billie and Rue! So good together. Except Wilhelmina feels more like Henrietta or Araminta – a yacht of a name. But Sybil called Billie feels a little more compatible. They’re not from the same historical era, strictly speaking, but they sound like they could be.

I think Constance “Coco” Katherine and Bernadette “Betty” Katherine are my favorites. Or Constance Kate and Bernadette Kaye? But I’m not sure if they beat Miriam, especially with the nickname Mimi.

Readers, what would you suggest as a sister name and nickname to go with Prudence “Rue” Mary?

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33 Comments

  1. Prudence is such a great name. Love it!

    You’ve had so many great suggestions already, so my only thought is on longer forms of Jet or Jette, because that sounds like a winner for a nickname.

    Juliet or Juliette lead to Jet/Jette, but they’re probably too common for you.

    Jeanette nn Jet however … Perfect!

  2. I adore your daughter’s full name and nickname. My own very favorite names strike me as potential sister names:

    Dorothy Clare nn Dot
    Miriam Rose nn Mimi
    Louisa Anne nn Lola
    Muriel Phoebe nn Miri, Muri, Mimi, or Elle
    May Genevieve
    Virginia Anne nn Ginny or Ginger
    Susanna Ruth nn Zuzu or Suki or Zanna
    Cassandra Louise nn Cassie
    Eve Juliet nn Evie
    Zelie Matilda

  3. Oooooo I love the idea of Birdie for you guys! Rue and Birdie sounds AMAZING in my opinion. I’d probably go with something like Alberta or Roberta for a first name.

    Other ideas other than Birdie…

    Gwendolyn (Gwen, Winnie, Wendy or Dolly)
    Mabel (Mae)
    Vivian (Vivi)
    Marjorie (Madge)
    Rosalind (Rosie or Indie or Lindy)
    Antoinette (Nettie)
    Cornelia (Neeley/ Neel or Cora or Cece)

    Also love Agnes, Constance, and Sybil!

  4. Also
    Alma
    Beatrice/Beatrix — Bea, Betty, Tris, Trixie
    Bridget — Bridge, Jet (One of my schoolmates does have a Bridget nicknamed Jet)
    Deirdre
    Dorothea/Dorothy (Doe, Dora, Dori, Dottie, Thea)
    Edith
    Edna
    Enid
    Ethel
    Gloria
    Ida
    Irene
    Louise
    Maxine
    Ramona
    Roberta
    Rosalind
    Selma
    Theodosia — Docia, Doe, Teddy, Thea, Theo
    Thomasina
    Vera
    Virgilia — Jilly
    Zenobia
    Zinaida

  5. I was going to suggest Georgia before I even got to your list when I was in high school the two names I wished I could be most were Prue and Georgia.

    My suggestion goes to Wilhelmina nn Mina or Minnie.

    I’m also a mum of a Ru for Rufus. Love Rue for Prudence!

  6. Dorothy ‘Dot, Dori, Dodi”
    Clothilde ‘Tlly’
    Emeraude, Emerette ‘Emmy’
    Beatrix ‘Trix, Trixi, Bix, Bliss, Bexi, Beax,
    Felicity ‘Fe, Fee’
    Belvedere ‘Bel, Belle’
    Clarentine ‘Clair’
    Crescentia ‘Cres, Cressy’
    Evangeline ‘Evi, Angie’
    Delphine ‘Fifi, Elfie’
    Eleanor(a) ‘Noni, Elli’

  7. All sorts of interesting names you could use if you’re willing to be a little over the top. Personally, I think another virtue name might be overkill and sound like a Puritan minister’s daughters circa 1620. You could probably look at old style Colonial Bible names without getting quite tge same impact. If you’re going for avant garde/quirky with nicknames like your older daughter’s, there are a lot that are pretty cutting edge at the bottom of the popularity chart. Look for ones with fewer than 100 uses.

    There are all the names that ended in s that were pretty popular at the end of the 19th century/early 20th century:
    Doris — a Greek sea goddess name and one of her sea nymph daughters, in use for centuries. My guess is that it will come back in a big way in another 25 years and give her the advantage of being assumed to be younger than she is. It would shorten to Dori, but also to Ris or Rissie.
    Iris — another Greek goddess name as well as a flower and a little more mainstream, could shorten to Irie or Ris.
    Mavis — means song thrush, was well used in the 19th century, trending now due to the as well the character from Transylvania, shortens to Mave or Maeve
    Phyllis — another classical Greek name; used in romantic poetry, coul shorten to Lis or Lissie.
    Other old-fashioned names:
    Alberta/Albertine — Could shorten to Allie or Birdie, among others. Listen to the song Albertine on Youtube.
    Bertha — Yeah, you might have to be pretty brave, but you could turn it into Birdie. It increased last year due to a character on The Gilded Age
    Blanche
    Esther (Essie, Esti, Ettie)
    Euphemia — Effie or Phemie
    Bertha — Yeah, you might have to be pretty brave, but you could turn it into Birdie. It increased last year due to a character on The Gilded Age
    Garnet — (Nettie)
    Harriet — (Ettie, Hattie, Hettie)
    Hester — (Hettie/Hetty)
    Inez
    Margaret — Greta or Margot, but also Rhett
    Marilla – Mari, Rilla
    Martha (Marty, Mattie, Patty, Patsy)
    Matilda/Mathilda/Mathilde — (Marty, Mattie, Tilly)
    Paulette — Polly
    Sybil —Billie, Sybbie
    Victorine
    Wilhelmina — (Billie, Mina, Willa, Willow)

  8. Two thoughts:

    Agatha (nicknames Aggie or Thea) Katherine
    Rue and Aggie, Rue and Thea
    Agatha Cl@rk

    Zipporah (nicknames of Zip or Zora) Katherine
    Rue and Zip, Rue and Zora
    Zipporah Cl@rk

    And MAYBE:
    Mercy Katherine (Mimi, Cici, Mim)

    Best wishes and congratulations on your second daughter!