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Name Help: A Sister for Matilda “Tilly”

April 14, 2017 By appellationmountain 36 Comments

Name Help: Matilda's sisterName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!

Courtney writes:

We are pleasantly pregnant with our second daughter. Sisters, how wonderful!
But geez, finding a name that holds up to the qualities of our daughter’s name has proven very difficult!
We are looking for a name that is not in the Top 100 (or 200 or 300 if possible), feminine, substantial and, frankly, as cute as Matilda. She is called Tilly, and we do love a nickname.

The name should begin with the letter B (first choice), E, or W because of religious custom.
We both love the name Hazel but it’s in the top 100 and doesn’t begin with our preferred letters, fail!
My husband doesn’t like Beatrice or Bronwyn. Matilda would love to call her Lulu as a nickname.
Please read on for my reply, and leave your helpful suggestions in the comments.
Hi Courtney –
How exciting to be welcoming a second daughter!
Choosing names can be tough when you have a specific list of requirements. Let’s recap:

Must begin with the letter B, E, or W, with B as the first choice.

Cannot rank in the current Top 100, and a name outside of the Top 300 is preferred.

A feminine name with substance and a cute nickname would be the ideal.

If possible, the nickname Lulu would be a bonus!

Is there any chance your husband might change his mind about Beatrice? Or possibly Beatrix? It hits all the notes, and sounds exactly right as a sister for Matilda. Plus, is there anything sweeter than sisters nicknamed Tilly and Trixie?
Okay, that’s not fair. I’m guessing if he was willing to consider the name, you might not be writing in!
Let’s brainstorm!
Eloise – Eloise currently ranks around the #250 and is rising. That’s the bad news. The good news? It’s an E name with plenty of history. Like Matilda, it has Germanic roots. And best of all? Lulu works nicely as a short form.
Briony/Bryony – Both spellings are in use, but while it’s familiar in the UK, it’s pretty rare in the US. Still, Bri- names for girls have fared well in recent years, so it’s not a stretch. The downsides: it’s much rarer than Matilda, and there’s not a logical short from.
Winifred – Winifred combines history and substance, with a great nickname – Winnie! It’s very rare in the US, but unlike Bryony, I think it would be familiar to many.
Bettina – Do you like Betty? It’s one of my favorites. You could certainly name your daughter Elizabeth and use Betty for short. That covers your preferred letters coming and going. But there are plenty of Elizabeth variations, like Bettina. Originally a nickname for Elizabeth, it stands on its own in 2017, a vintage, unexpected option.
Bernadette – Speaking of Betty, I’ve heard parents considering Bernadette, nickname Betty. Birdie works nicely for Bernadette, too – and I love the sound of Tilly and Birdie! Like Winifred, it’s a familiar name that isn’t at all common.
Bianca – Bianca, Blanca, and Blanche all mean fair. Blanche came first, a medieval French nickname. I think Bianca might be the most stylish today, boosted by the name’s association with Shakespeare, in Taming of the Shrew and Othello. Bebe would be a logical – and sweet – nickname.
Edith – Okay, back to the letter E. Do you like Edith, nickname Edie? Edith has Old English roots, and like Matilda, can be found in the history books. Tilly and Edie pair nicely together. Another bonus? Like Matilda, this name ranks around the #500 in the US. That makes it rare,  but widely known.
Everild – Like Edith, Everild has Old English roots. It also has a great, built-in nickname: Evie. It’s all-but extinct as a given name, but it has a lovely and appealing sound. Of course, there are lots of rare Ev- names for girls, as well as a few more mainstream options, like Evelina and Evangeline.
My favorite, hands down, is Eloise. It hits all the marks and gives you Lulu as a nickname. It matches Matilda perfectly, plus gives you the satisfaction of having your daughter help name her sister!
Readers, I know you’ll have more great suggestions. What would you name a sister for Matilda, called Tilly?

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Comments

  1. RL says

    April 20, 2017 at 2:32 PM

    If you really want to go with B, I think Bettina is a nice bet. Have you considered Beverly? My friend has a Beverly and she wears it well. That said, you could use Bee or Bebe (baybay) or Bibi as a nickname, or even Evie.

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  2. Jean C. says

    April 18, 2017 at 10:31 PM

    I LOVE the suggestions of Eulalie and Bridget (with or without the nickname Birdie, which I personally think is so cute but might not be for everyone). Or Elizabeth with the nickname Betsy. But I think Matilda and Eulalie sound perfect together–Tilly and Lulu. Swoon!

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  3. Panya says

    April 18, 2017 at 6:27 PM

    These Breton & Welsh names immediately popped into my head: Bleuenn, Elouane, and Eluned. A surname-name also came to mind: Willoughby.

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  4. Laura Powell says

    April 18, 2017 at 10:41 AM

    He there!
    A name that is ancient and rich in history just like Matilda is Belisent very rare but very beautiful and strong also carrying quite a few Nicknames if you wish.
    Good luck with your choice.

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  5. Nessie says

    April 17, 2017 at 7:02 PM

    Bridget or Brigitte (Bree).

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  6. Sarah Fickett says

    April 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM

    Being that B is your preferred letter, I think you need a few more B ideas…

    Berit – (Scan.) Gorgeous, splendid, magnificent. I’m not sure of a nn on this one, but I knew a lady with this name growing up and I loved the intrigue.

    Belita – (Sp.) Little Beauty. Nicknames include Lita or Lili, which aren’t Lulu, but are still cute.

    Bevin – (Ir. Gael.) Singer. Nicknames Bev or Vini.

    For E names I love Edith, and know a 14 year old who rocks it. Other E names that you might consider….

    Elmira – (Arab) Princess or lady. I love this with Matilda; bold yet cute. Nicknames include Elm, and Mira, but if she went by Lulu I wouldn’t find it too surprising.

    Elma – (var. Lat) Soul. Nn similar to above.

    Enid – (Welsh) Life, spirit. Unexpected, but easy to read and pronounce. Nn include Eni, Nidy.

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  7. Josie says

    April 16, 2017 at 7:02 AM

    Eloise is perfect but if you are worried about the popularity then Eloisa doesn’t even rank in the top 1000.
    Other E names that would get a Lulu nickname:
    Elara
    Eula (how cute are Eula and Matilda as a sibset?!)
    Emanuela (or another variant)
    Elodie

    Wilhemina doesn’t have the name Lulu but it starts with W and Mina and Tilly really sound like sisters.
    Bailou might sound a bit unusual but it starts with a B and the nickname Lulu fits extremely well.
    Eloisa is absolutely my favourite choice for you though.

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  8. Kim says

    April 16, 2017 at 2:50 AM

    Eulalie! It’s certainly unique, and it gets you to Lulu.

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  9. Sargjo says

    April 15, 2017 at 4:14 PM

    I love the suggestion of Beulah, and also…Babette. I think of Babette as an elegant French name (the movie Babette’s Feast…anyone) and it’s a nickname for Elizabeth as well. Etta is super cute with Tilly, so is Betty. I think Matilda and Babette sound like artists and adventurers.

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  10. Jaya says

    April 15, 2017 at 4:02 PM

    What about Eliora?

    Winona may also work well with Matilda, nn Noni.

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  11. Dutch says

    April 15, 2017 at 8:21 AM

    Trying to use your letter of first choice (B) to get to Lulu or Loulou.

    Blandine Eloise
    Berenice Lucy – Lucille
    Benedicte/a Louise
    Balsamie Lucence

    They might be a bit over de top. I got them from The Book of Saints (1921)

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  12. Liza says

    April 15, 2017 at 7:21 AM

    Beatrice and Matilda (Tilly and Bea) are my dream twin girls so very sad that’s off the table. I had 2 boys so couldn’t use either but since our styles are similar, what about another name we were going to use: Eliza. Its a little more popular- 100 something but so sweet. Or, I think Elizabeth nn Libby would be so great too. I also thought of Winifred nn Winnie and oddly thought of Bettina before I read Abby’s response too. Eloise does seem perfect too!

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  13. Candy says

    April 15, 2017 at 5:17 AM

    Eloise is a perfect choice in every way. Winifred in second place. Best wishes to you, Courtney. Can you post your choice after she is born?

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  14. a says

    April 15, 2017 at 2:00 AM

    Before I read your criteria, my first thoughts were Beatrice/Beatrix, Eleanor and Adelaide, with Isadora as a wildcard option.
    After reading, I can see that they’re all out.
    I think Abby’s suggestion of Eloise is wonderful (bonus points for Eloise being a strong children’s book character, like Matilda). I love Edith, too.

    Other thoughts (mostly E-namess):
    Eleanora (Ellie, Nell, Nelly, Nora, etc. Lulu might work)
    Eluned (Lulu, Ellie)
    Edwina/ Edina (Eddie, Dina)
    Estelle/Estella/Estrella (Essie, Stella, Ella)
    Elena (Lena, Ellie. Too popular?)
    Emmeline (Emmy, Emma, Lina, Lili, Melly). Mentioned above.
    Elisabeth/Elspeth (all the Elizabeth names). I saw a mention of Elizabeth above, but the variants take it out of top-100 territory

    Bluebell (a bit left-of-centre, but it gets you Lulu, as well as Belle)

    Might a ‘lulu-name’ (depending on your heritage and where you live, something like Alura, Iluka, Lucinda, Lucia, Lucy, Luca, Lleleu, Louise, Louisa, Tallulah, Melusine, Luna, Luned, Lucretia, Luella Ludovica etc) work in the middle spot? That would give Tilly a reason to call her Lulu. Or, of course, she could just have Lulu as a family nickname unrelated to her official name.

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  15. Dutch says

    April 15, 2017 at 12:08 AM

    Babette : nn. Bobbie
    Benedicte : Bunty, Bennie
    Bernadette : Betty
    Belisent : Ellie
    Bridget : Bibi, Birdie, Gigi, Bunty

    Emanuella : Lulu, Emmie
    Edessa : Edie
    Elise : Elly, Elsie
    Evelina : Livvy, Evvie
    Ellen : Nellie

    Wilhelmina : Winnie, Nini,

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  16. Audra Fullerton says

    April 14, 2017 at 10:41 PM

    My dear friend has 3 daughters- Beatrice (Bea,) Matilda (Tilly,) and Daphne. So I’m so partial to Bea!
    BUT- What about Beulah? Super unique and Lulu is perfect!

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  17. Maree says

    April 14, 2017 at 10:37 PM

    What about Wynn? You could call her Wynnie but it is less clunky than Winifred.

    I like Bea by itself as a name but it could work for any B name.

    Those are my favourites but also
    Bridie (stand alone or nn for Bridget)
    Bonnie
    Elaine (a lulu option?)
    Elise (Liesl, lulu, Elsie)

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  18. C in DC says

    April 14, 2017 at 7:24 PM

    I can’t believe I’m suggesting this, but Beulah could get you to Lulu. Ursula would be another option, but it doesn’t start with your preferred letters. Emmylou? Eden, nn Denny; Edwina, nn Winnie, Wendolyn, nn Linnie; Everly, nn Vivi.

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  19. FE says

    April 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM

    Perhaps you – or at least Tilly – might be able to get Lulu from Eleanor?

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  20. Stefanie says

    April 14, 2017 at 6:18 PM

    Emmylou or Eulalie!

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  21. Jeannine says

    April 14, 2017 at 5:51 PM

    Bernice, Berenice, Eula, Elodie

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  22. FE says

    April 14, 2017 at 5:46 PM

    I actually love Elizabeth, called Bess.

    Matilda & Elizabeth
    Tilly & Bess.

    Fresh, sweet and long-wearing – but I don’t think you can get Lulu from it 🙁

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  23. Amanda Grayson says

    April 14, 2017 at 5:14 PM

    Someone suggested Waverly. I don’t know what nickname you could get out of it but I think it is a great girl’s name. Also, I am not trying to be insulting but we have a big beautiful hen named Waverly. I mention her here because she was the sole survivor of a major chicken massacre last fall that wiped out everyone in her group (17?). She alone was able to hide underneath the hut and so escape. She sustained a huge wound to her back but we were able to patch her up and she is as good as new and back out with another group. So the name Waverly now connotes survival and strength to me.

    Good luck in your search!

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  24. Kelsey D says

    April 14, 2017 at 4:53 PM

    My favourite is definitely Bettina. I love that it has the same T sound in it as Matilda does. Tilly and Betty are super cute. Betty has a new fresh, spunky feel to it… there is new Netflix series Riverdale that loosely follows the storyline of Betty and Archie (like the comics) and it makes Betty seem like a fresh retro name. Add in old-grandparent names are definitely in style right now. Love that they are both five letter shortened names, both with double consonants ending with a Y yet have their own sound and don’t seem too matchy. Really really love this combo. Would stop here. Love it!!

    My next favourite would Edith. Edie is super cute too.

    Good luck!!

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  25. Jamie says

    April 14, 2017 at 4:28 PM

    Luella, nickname Lulu
    Beatrix, nickname Trixie (so sad your hubs doesn’t like it)
    Clementine, nickname Clemmie or Clem
    Ramona, nickname Momo
    Frances, nickname Frankie
    Florence, nickname Flora or Flossie

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  26. Johanna says

    April 14, 2017 at 4:18 PM

    Theadora nn Thea

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  27. Sara says

    April 14, 2017 at 3:56 PM

    Winifred is totally the name I would’ve suggested.

    My daughter’s BFF is a Tilly who has a younger sister Emily; if Tilly and Emily are too rhyme-y, how about Emmeline?

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  28. Renee says

    April 14, 2017 at 2:00 PM

    I don’t think you can improve on Eloise! It’s perfection. I know one who goes by Lulu.

    My vote for B is Bernadette, Birdie is so great. And W has to be Wilhelmina nn Minnie.

    Otherwise: Eulalie, Evelina, Beulah, Bellamy, Winona, Waverly…

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  29. C says

    April 14, 2017 at 12:39 PM

    Lucina, nn Lulu!

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  30. CarolAnn says

    April 14, 2017 at 12:26 PM

    Eulalie would be a great option! Matilda and Eulalie sound very sweet together and I think you could pull Lulu from it!

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  31. Emily says

    April 14, 2017 at 11:49 AM

    What about Elula?

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  32. Catherine Surface says

    April 14, 2017 at 11:10 AM

    We have a Bernadette nn Birdie, and are strongly considering Matilda nn Tildy for our third. I guess they’re not as out there as we’d thought! I think they are both such beautiful names, though. 😀

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  33. Courtney says

    April 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM

    Wow, thank you so much for the thoughtful response and awesome suggestions! Can’t wait to meet our girl.

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  34. Amanda L. says

    April 14, 2017 at 9:30 AM

    The first two I thought of while reading your request were Eloise and Winifred. Bryony and Bettina are both beautiful, as well. Other rare, strong-but-girly B ideas that might work for you are Belinda and Blythe.

    I couldn’t think of any B names to get to Lu Lu, even after reading through a couple lists. 🙁 One idea might be to use an L name in the middle. Depending on the first name, you could use Lou, Lucy, Louise, Louisa, etc.

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  35. Emma says

    April 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM

    Beatrix was my thought before I even read it… My favorites are Matilda and Eloise or Edith, if not Beatrix. (Previous suggestion, Wilhelmina nn Minnie, is a favorite of mine, too.)

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  36. JMV says

    April 14, 2017 at 8:53 AM

    Bianca and Edith popped into my head, too, along with a million reasons for you to love Beatrice (but that’s not helpful). I would use Betty as a nn for Beatrice. I love all the suggestions and wanted to add Wilhelmina–> Mina or Minnie.

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