Welcome LouiseUpdate: I went into labor a little early, just a few days after this ran, and we still didn’t have a name. I was almost hoping for a boy because at least we agreed! But we had our third girl. And it turned out that choosing her name was easy, thanks to the most amazing labor & delivery nurse named Louise. As soon as I heard her name, I realized it was just meant to be! Our girls call her Lou Lou and all sorts of silly, sweet names. Thanks to everyone for your help and all of your suggestions. We read through every one of them in those early stages of labor and we really appreciated it!

Kristen writes:

We have two daughters, Helen and Frances. Both girls have my (unusual) last name as their middle name.

Our third and final child will be here in early August. If it’s a boy, we will name him James and call him Jack.

I know that’s not the usual nickname, but it’s the one we both like best.

We’re struggling with girl names. Many of the names we liked with Frances and Helen now feel too popular, including Abigail, Alice, and Evelyn.

I don’t like names that end with a, or really with vowel sounds. Though I do like Henry, so perhaps the right name could change my mind.

Not repeating initials is important to me.

With the exception of a few names, like James/Jack, I really don’t care for nicknames. And I don’t like names that feel like nicknames, even if I know they’re not. (My husband likes Lucy, but I feel like it’s short for Lucille, which I don’t care for.)

Can you help us find a girl’s name that goes with Helen “V@shek” “Nole$” and Frances “V@shek” “Nole$” without repeating an initial?

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your new baby!

I think the challenge with naming as our families grow is the sheer number of children we know. Neighborhood kids, the siblings’ of our children’s friends, the names of classmates in nursery school or swim class or any other formal program. Even if you’re just hanging out at the playground, you’re hearing names, names, names.

And so it probably won’t help for me to insist that Alice isn’t really common. Because to your ear, it’s overexposed. Maybe you even know one – or more!

The good news? Lots and lots of traditional, tailored names for girls remain far less popular. And they’d be perfect sister choices for Frances and Helen, too.

A SISTER FOR HELEN AND FRANCES

ADELE

Adelaide and Adeline are options, too, but I think the two-syllable, compact Adele is the perfect balance for Helen and Frances.

CLAIRE

Spare Claire is a Top 100 choice in the US, and has been since the late 1990s. But it seems more classic than trendy, a long-standing name with a lovely meaning: bright.

DOROTHY

The storybook hero makes this name feel equal parts vintage and daring. It’s every bit a sister for Helen and Frances.

ESTHER

Long before Harper and Piper, Esther was the girls’ name ending with R that appealed to generation after generation.

IRENE

Another name with a powerful meaning – peace – Irene is an earlier generation’s style star. Today it feels surprising and familiar at the same time.

LOUISE

Would Louise appeal to your husband? You mentioned Lucy is on his list, but you’re not a fan of Lucille. Louise might be the best of both worlds, with no shortening required.

MARGOT

Originally a Margaret nickname, Margot now stands on its own. It’s a name that feels creative and strong.

RUTH

This simple name borrowed from the Old Testament has an enduring quality.

Overall, my favorite sister name for Frances and Helen is probably Dorothy, with Adele a close second. I think they’re good style matches for her sisters, but a little different, too.

Readers, over to you! What would you name a sister for Helen and Frances?

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23 Comments

  1. I think Mary would just be so very lovely!

    Helen, Frances, and Mary.

    My goodness! Pure nostalgia and straight out of an era gone by.

    Marion would also be perfect!

    Helen, Frances and Marion

  2. Here are a few others, though you have quite a few neat suggestions already:

    Anne or Annette
    Blythe
    Brynn
    Caroline
    Catherine or Katharine or Katherine or Kathryn or just Kate
    Elizabeth
    Garnet — I once interviewed an extremely accomplished woman with this name who had headed up a college. Something there was named after her when she retired. It’s also the name of the little girl in the book “Thimble Summer” by Elizabeth Enright.
    Grace
    Gwen
    Gwendolyn
    Gwyneth
    Jeannette
    Judith
    Lois
    Lucienne — If you don’t like Lucille, here’s another French version
    Marguerite
    Marian or Marion
    Marianne
    Maud or Maude
    Maureen
    Mavis
    Page or Paige — Not popular anymore for babies but still familiar and nice. It’s been used long enough to be a modern classic.
    Quinn
    Rachel — Ditto. Not popular anymore, but classic and still well used.
    Susan or Suzanne or Suzette
    Verity

  3. Frances, Helen and Mavis
    Frances, Helen and Agnes
    Frances, Helen and Eileen
    Frances, Helen and Gwen
    Frances, Helen and Gladys

  4. My first thought was Sybil! And then Violet and Edith(nn Edie is adorable!).

    Helen, Frances and Sybil

    Helen, Frances and Violet

    Helen, Frances and Edith

    Best of luck!

  5. Since James/Jack is your boy name, and this is your final child, have you considered Jacqueline (maybe nn Jackie) for a girl? I think it would complement the sisters’ names nicely.

  6. Alexandrine, Beatrix, Christine, Constance, Coral, Corinne, Deirdre, Edith, Iris, Jean, Josephine, June, Magdalen, Margaret, Marjorie, Mathilde, Meredith, Millicent, Miriam, Olive, Patience, Rose, Sybil, Therese, Victorine, Yvette, Yvonne

  7. Ooh, I love your style! I am sure these have all been suggested but with the sibset I love…
    Dorothy—my absolute favorite name right now
    Miriam
    Virginia
    Mae/May
    Edith
    Marian/Marion
    Emmeline
    Clara
    Marcelline
    Antoinette
    Pauline