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TRADITIONAL BUT NOT (TOO) OBVIOUS

Hannah writes:

It feels like it took more than a year to name our son, George Andrew. My husband and I agreed that we wanted a classic name, but not something that we heard all the time. And we’re avoiding family names, mostly because our siblings have already honored all the grandparents, so we’re off the hook!

My favorite girl’s name with George was Charlotte, but we won’t name this daughter Charlotte. It feels too British royals. (Royal family news is one of my guilty pleasures, so no one would believe it was a coincidence.) Also we know two other Charlottes, so I think I’d probably not put it at the top of our list anyway.

Time has gone by so fast with this pregnancy. I’m due in October and can’t believe we don’t have a name figured out already.

Names we’re considering:

  • For a boy – Edward (but don’t like Eddie/Ned), Michael (feels too modern), Theodore (we know a few, not sure about Theo/Ted/Teddy), Charles/Charlie (we know so many), William (royal family problem again), Timothy (don’t like Timmy), Paul (would this be weird with the Beatles), John/Jonathan (same question with John, and is Jonathan too long with George?)
  • For a girl – Cecilia (pretty, but maybe too frilly), Eleanor (feels like I should like it more than I do), Margaret/Margot (neither of these feels right), Victoria (a little too much and maybe too royal), Katherine (again, royal family).

I think we just need an outside perspective. Thanks in advance!

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

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FINDING FRESH TRADITIONAL CHOICES

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your second!

It goes fast, right? Lots of couples talk names early in their relationships, and so it can feel like we have plenty of time to choose our firstborn’s name … and then mere seconds the next time around!

A few things I should note:

  • The royal family loves classic names, and so they’ve probably used almost any name on your longest shortlist! I agree that George and Charlotte is too heir-to-the-throne. But Katherine? Maybe not. Even George and Kate doesn’t spark anything for me. The same is true for George and William/Will. But if you wanted to rule out Charlotte, Catherine/Katherine/Kate, William, and Louis, that seems like enough.
  • Likewise, I wouldn’t completely rule out Paul and John for a son. Especially John. That name has been worn by too many men of accomplishment for me to immediately think of the Beatles. Both of my teenagers absolutely know who the Beatles are, but I’m pretty sure only one of them (and she’s the musician) could actually name the band members. Time will fade these references even more.

CLASSIC BOY NAMES for GEORGE’S BROTHER

From your current list, I think I’d put Jonathan at the top. Here’s why:

  • If you don’t care for the nicknames for Edward, Theodore, and Timothy, I’d rule them out.
  • You’re ruling out William because of the Prince of Wales connection.
  • While it sounds like Charles/Charlie and Paul aren’t quite as problematic, you’ve voiced some hesitations here, too.

Jonathan adds some extra sound to John, and manages to be traditional, but much less British royal. George and Jonathan are different lengths, but have lots of other things in common – they’re great together!

I’d put Michael a close second. Yes, Michael had a really good run from the 1950s into the 1980s. But it’s a rock solid classic. Bonus? Call him Michael instead of Mike and the name does feel fresh and new.

If not either of those names …

FRESH IDEAS FOR GEORGE’S BROTHER

ANTHONY

You like Timothy, but not Timmy/Tim. Would Anthony help? I feel like no one shortens it to Tony now – at least not in the way I automatically shorten Timothy without a second thought.

DAVID

Again, David in full is very different from Dave. Davy is darling, but maybe you feel differently?

LUKE

Another brief, complete name, but one with a different origin and backstory than George, which makes it feels different.

SAMUEL

Nearly every Sam is a Samuel, and most Samuels answer to Sam. That gives you the best of both worlds – two traditional names that both end up being short, traditional, and approachable. But they’re different in meaningful ways, too.

THOMAS

I’m just realizing that I’ve leaned heavily into Biblical boy names for my suggestions. Then again, that’s the source for so many classics. And in our age of Elijah and Malachi, Thomas feels understated and strong. I wonder if Tommy strikes the same problematic note for you as Timmy? If not, I think this is a keeper.

CLASSIC GIRL NAMES FOR GEORGE’S SISTER

It felt easy to choose favorites from your boys’ list, but the girls’ side seems more challenging. It sounds like Katherine, Eleanor, Margaret/Margot, and Victoria are out.

My top suggestion would be Cecilia. If it’s too elaborate, would you consider Celia or Cecile? Cecile Katherine is great with George Andrew.

NEW SUGGESTIONS FOR GEORGE’S SISTER

ALICE

Spare and restrained, Alice has a hint of British-ness about it, just like George. (Thanks to Lewis Carroll, I suppose.) But only a hint.

CLAIRE

A single-syllable name that still feels pretty and feminine, a perfect match for George.

FRANCES

George and Frances sound a little old-fashioned, but also impeccably timeless.

ROSE

An enduring choice, Rose fits in with Willow today, but also belongs with classics like Eleanor and Margaret.

VIVIAN

It’s not quite in the same classic category as Alice or Rose, but it reminds me a little of Jonathan – the rhythm, the ending sound – while still feeling like a traditional, feminine choice.

Overall, I’m still stuck on Jonathan from your original list. Jonathan Charles, maybe? I’d put Michael Edward a close second. From my suggestions, I love the idea of Samuel Jonathan. George and Sam.

On the girls’ side, I adore Alice for you. Alice Katherine, maybe? I wonder if Claire would appeal. George Andrew and Claire Margaret or Claire Vivian both feel like great choicse. And if Cecile appeals over Cecilia, then Cecile Katherine probably rockets to #1 for me.

Readers, over to you! What would you name a sibling for George Andrew?

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14 Comments

  1. Jonathan would be perfect, I think. The suggestions of Thomas or Philip are also great and people haven’t really shortened them for us. Our Philip is occasionally Flip, courtesy of our pastor, and Thomas is Tom sometimes, but only because his sister likes to tease him.

    For a girl perhaps Susanne/Susannah? Or even Susan? I like the way Susanne sounds with George. Eloise or Mary also are nice.

    George and Jonathan
    George and Thomas
    George and Philip

    George and Susanne
    George and Eloise
    George and Mary

  2. Oh I forgot to add a few!

    Philip. George and Philip
    Nathaniel. George and Nathaniel (love!)

    Caroline. George and Caroline
    Emily. George and Emily

  3. Abby’s suggestion of Alice is perfect!
    George and Alice!

    Other ideas:
    George and Harriet
    George and Meredith
    George and Susannah
    George and Ruth
    George and Theresa

    For boys, I think Peter would be a great choice!
    George and Peter!

    Other ideas:
    George and Robert
    George and Lewis
    George and Malcolm
    George and Thomas
    George and Oscar

  4. My first thought for you was Frances and I love it with the brother name. Other favorites:
    Louisa
    Celia
    Lydia
    Phoebe
    Ellen
    Anne
    Julianna
    Susanna

    For a boy, favorite suggestion is Thomas. Other ideas:
    Edmund
    Peter
    Francis
    Christopher
    Virgil
    Raphael

  5. Adelaide (Addie, Della)
    Amelia (Mia, Millie)
    Audrey
    Beatrice (Bea)
    Caroline
    Cecily (Cece)
    Edith (Edie)
    Eliza (Lizzie)
    Eloise (Ellie)
    Evelyn (Evie)
    Harriet (Hattie)
    Helena (Nell)
    Isabelle (Izzy)
    Juliette (Jules)
    Josephine (Jo, Josie, Posie)
    Lucy
    Lydia
    Matilda (Tilly, Tilda)
    Scarlett

  6. George and…

    Geoffrey
    Graham
    Franklin
    Zachary
    Miles
    Arthur
    Alistair
    Joseph
    Dashiell
    Ethan
    Walter

    Carolina
    Estelle
    Abigail
    Annabelle
    Corina
    Gwendolyn
    Elise
    Bethany
    Rhiannon
    Jessamine
    Laurel
    Marian
    Beatrice

    Congratulations and best wishes!

  7. Boy:
    George and Peter
    Girl:
    George and Lucy
    George and Claire
    George and Rose
    George and Emma
    George and Violet

  8. George and Michael automatically makes me think of George Michael. He might not be well known to kids, though. I would probably look for classics further down the list. I really like Barbara and Nancy, for example, and both are currently popular in Europe. Eva and Evelina are both very popular right now in eastern Europe. Alma is similarly well used.

    Boys: Alan, Albert, Carl, Christopher, Felix, Francis, Frederick, Gregory, Howard, Jack, James, Joseph, Kenneth, Matthew, Nicholas, Oscar, Patrick, Peter, Richard, Robert, Stephen
    Girls: Ada, Alice, Alma, Barbara, Caroline, Cecily, Christina, Christine, Colette, Cora, Cynthia, Deborah, Deirdre, Della, Diana, Dorothy, Ellen, Eva, Gillian, Grace, Helen, Irene, Irina, Isabeau, Jacqueline, Jill, Kathleen, Linda, Louise, Lucy, Marie, Mary, Nancy, Nina, Patricia, Rachel, Rebecca, Rosalind, Ruth, Susan, Susannah, Suzanne, Theresa, Therese, Virginia

    If you like royal names, there are quite a few there that people wouldn’t automatically associate with them if you paired it with George:

  9. Hi! Here are some more to consider:

    Frederick
    Oliver (too popular?)
    Henry (too popular?)
    Felix
    Oscar
    Hugo
    Sebastian

    Genevieve
    Beatrice
    Julia or Juliet
    Sophie
    Grace
    Laura
    Louisa
    Adelaide (maybe a little spunkier than Eleanor)

    Best wishes!!