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Name Help: A Brother for Sophie

May 21, 2016 By appellationmountain 30 Comments

Name Help: A Brother for SophieName Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every Saturday, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.

We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!

Shivon writes:

My husband and I are having a heck of a time deciding on a name for our future son.

I am a teacher, so automatically, that helps me rule out lots of names.

The one name we love, James, is my husband’s middle name. However, it was used by my close cousin, and I don’t really want to have two boys with the same name in the family because we are close.

My husband loves the name Benjamin, but I have had students named that. We can’t seem to find any common ground.

We have discussed a few other names:

  • Bennet (for the Ben nickname)
  • Some names from Greek mythology (Orion, Apollo)
  • Family names (David, Brennan, Alexander)

But we are not finding anything we love or want to commit to, and don’t really care for any derivatives of those names.

I also have a strong aversion to any names ending in “den” or “son” because of the many popular and sometimes rhyming names of Hayden, Jaden, Ayden, Hudson, Jason, Kayson and the like.

I’m also doing my best to stay off the top 50 or so list to avoid my children being named the same thing as future students, despite that failing miserably with the name Sophie. But we still love her name regardless.

Our last name is a tough one to match up with as well. One syllable, starts with a C, rhymes with ouch.

If our first child would have been a boy, we probably still would be in the hospital trying to figure out a name.

Read on for my response, and please leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Hi Shivon –

Congratulations on baby #2!

It sounds to me like your taste in names is pretty traditional. After all, Sophie might be very popular right now, but it’s also a name with a long history of use.

And James, your top name for a boy, is about as classic as it gets.

That’s in conflict with your desire to avoid duplicating a name with a former student – or a future student, even!

That’s a tall order, because the most classic names for boys are, by definition, in heavy use over the years. It’s very likely that you’ll have a future student – or a neighbor, colleague, dentist, auto mechanic – with any name that qualifies as a true classic.

One approach might be to dig deeper for a family name, though it sounds like you’ve ruled out all of the likely options.

There are a few directions you can go:

  • Choose a rock solid classic for a boy – Yes, it will repeat, probably in your classroom, and certainly in your life. But the magic of classic names is that they cannot be pigeon-holed. Is John a president or a rock star? Yes.
  • Choose a new traditional name for a boy – Then there are the names that have quietly become consistent Top 100 performers over the past few decades. They might feel novel or even modern to an older crowd, but most of just think of these as conventional names for boys. Again, they’ll likely repeat – but consistent use means that they, too, become versatile.
  • Choose a traditional name that’s out of favor – You might read it in a book, but you’re not likely to hear these names on children today. The downside is that any of them can become fashionable once more, and you might find yourself with a classroom full of them in another twenty years. But there’s a good chance that these names will remain rare enough that your son won’t have to share.

Now, on to the names:

Henry – I think Henry seems like an obvious brother name for Sophie. It’s classic, but also stylish right now. It’s not likely to be nicknamed, so it would work well with your short surname. And you could use some of your more inventive or family names as middles. (Since Sophie has two middles, how about something like Henry Alexander Orion?)

William – William is every bit as enduring as Henry or James. The downside? William is currently a Top Ten name throughout much of the English-speaking world. Heck, it’s the name of the future King of England. It’s everywhere. And yet, because fewer names repeat than ever before, I doubt you’ll feel like William is too popular. We know two Williams under the age of 12. (They don’t know each other.) One is Will; the other is always William. Both wear well.

Jonathan – John was long the absolutely most popular name for a boy everywhere. Today, the name’s influence is still felt, but it’s much rarer to meet a boy called John. Still, with a short last name, you might like something a little longer. Jonathan requires no nickname, but has plenty of options if you’re so inclined. (Jon, Jack, Nat, Nate, Jono, for starters.) Sophie and Jonathan sound lovely together.

Matthew – Matthew was long a Top Ten name, but it can’t be called trendy. There’s Downton Abbey’s Matthew Crawley, Arctic explorer Matthew Henson, Commodore Matthew Perry, plus politicians, actors, and athletes galore. Parents are often so intent on avoiding popular names that we avoid the traditional favorites like Matthew. And Sophie and Matthew sound timeless together.

Nicholas – Nicholas was big in the 1990s, but again, you’re not likely to meet a lot of young children with the name right now. Like Jonathan, there’s more than one possible nickname. (Nick, Nico, and Cole all come to mind.) Another possibility might be Colin, originally a nickname for Nicholas. Nicholas is an ancient as Alexander, far more mainstream than Nicodemus, but not as popular with children born in 2016 as you might imagine.

Peter – I keep expecting Peter to rebound, especially after so many pop culture reboots of the Peter Pan story. So far that hasn’t happened – Peter remains in style limbo, familiar but not fashionable. It could be the perfect middle-of-the-road option between James and Apollo.

Harold – I know two school-aged Harolds, and I can honestly say it wears well. Harold has history to spare, shares nicknames with the stylish and traditional Henry, and manages to be surprising and completely familiar at the same time. If you’re after something different, but not invented, this might be the direction to go. For more names in this category, see this list.

Gilbert – Sure, it might prompt questions about whether you’re a big Anne of Green Gables fan. But Gilbert has a long history of use – the Normans brought the name to England, where Saint Gilbert lived in the twelfth century. In recent decades, it’s been rare in the English-speaking world, but it is still widely recognized as a given name.

My sense is that a name like Jonathan might be your best bet, and I really like the way Matthew and Sophie sound together. But I do think you have lots and lots of options – especially if you’re willing to choose a traditional name that has been shared by many, and therefore can’t really be owned by any one.

Readers, I know there are dozens of more possibilities! What would you suggest to Shivon and her husband? I’d especially love to hear from teachers, and to know more about how you handled the but-I-have-a-student-named-that dilemma.

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Comments

  1. Mel says

    May 28, 2016 at 10:17 PM

    I think your family name Brennan could still be nicknamed Ben! Very sweet.

    Reply
  2. Sara says

    May 27, 2016 at 10:52 AM

    Late to this party but my immediate thoughts were Miles and Mark. I especially like Miles.

    Reply
  3. Andrea says

    May 24, 2016 at 1:03 AM

    I thought of Wallace. My husband and I had that name on our list (we ended up naming the baby Oskar–another great choice) but we didn’t like the nickname Wally. Lately I’ve heard of a boy named Wallace that has the nickname Ace. I LOVE it. You get the great classic Wallace with an updated nn. Just a thought. My favorite suggestion, other than Wallace, is Peter. Good luck!

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  4. Allure says

    May 23, 2016 at 10:46 PM

    Everett, Hugo, Miles, Silas, Ezra, Bradley, Rowan, Jesse, Luca, Theo, Winston, Kenneth, Ira, Edgar, Rupert, Reuben, Sidney, Lyle, Boyd, Hayes, Rory, Declan, Finley, Rhys, Thatcher, Timothy, Damian, Emmett, Matthias, Jasper, Jude, Levi, Arlo, Kelly, Blaise, Dorian, Jeremy, Jericho, Shea.

    I say, always go for the more uncommon choices, carrying a popular name is a burden.

    Reply
  5. Calvin tomkins says

    May 23, 2016 at 10:05 AM

    I immediately thought Harry. But other great ones:
    Benson
    Blair
    Hamish
    Gordon
    Miller
    Michael

    Reply
  6. Kelsey D says

    May 22, 2016 at 9:36 PM

    Ooh, I forgot to add: Hugh or Abram (nn Bram or Abe are too cute)

    Oswald is different, nn Oz or Ozzy are amazing.

    I also like Peter.

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  7. Lisa says

    May 22, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    I’m a teacher, and we just named our daughter last year after I’d been teaching for eight years. I have definitely had some stinkers in that time, but the name we chose is a name several students have had, so it didn’t feel pinned to one person. I guess your other option would be to go with something so out there, you don’t think a student will share it. But you never know!

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  8. JMV says

    May 22, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    Other ways to get to Ben — Reuben, Tobin, Benji, Bentley, Benedict, Alben, Corbin. I think that Brennan with the nickname Ben works well. I think it is a totally natural nickname and is a great family tie.

    When I heard Sophie, I immediately thought of Grant.

    From Abby’s list, I really like Peter.

    Reply
  9. Loren S says

    May 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM

    What about Thomas? I also like the suggestions of Peter, George, and Reuben.

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    • Allure says

      May 23, 2016 at 10:47 PM

      Top 50 name and climbing.

      Reply
  10. The Mrs. says

    May 22, 2016 at 6:05 PM

    What about Ambrose or Edmund?

    Both are classics! Just thought of them.

    Reply
  11. Virginia says

    May 22, 2016 at 12:39 PM

    Aaron? Classic, not overused.

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  12. Kelsey D says

    May 22, 2016 at 11:10 AM

    What about Arlo? A classic name that isn’t very common. Sophie and Arlo.

    Here’s my list:
    Oliver
    Charles
    Winston
    Walter
    Louis (lou-ie)
    Henry
    George
    Theodore
    Maxwell
    Wells – love this. Sophie and Wells.
    Raphael
    Frederick – Fitz is such a great nn!

    Reply
  13. Carly says

    May 22, 2016 at 6:54 AM

    My first thought was Peter!

    Maybe –

    Frederick
    Colin
    Gregory
    Victor
    Harvey

    Reply
    • Sarah G says

      May 22, 2016 at 11:05 AM

      I’m not such a fan of Peter but completely agree with your other suggestions. Great underused staples, especially Colin.

      Reply
  14. Kim says

    May 22, 2016 at 12:16 AM

    Huge fan of Peter! I think it’s so classic, and so underused. Totally hits the sweet spot for me. I’ll also throw Gregory out there, because it was the one I didn’t get to use.
    I will say that I love the sound of Sophie and Jonathon, though.

    Reply
  15. Zena Eve says

    May 21, 2016 at 8:47 PM

    Clark!

    Reply
  16. Chisoni says

    May 21, 2016 at 6:54 PM

    Gilbert, yes! Winston- even better. I like the way it sounds with Sophie. Reuben and Benedict are great too.

    Reply
  17. Emily says

    May 21, 2016 at 5:50 PM

    As a teacher, I understand your negative association with names of more challenging students. However, I think with each class you teach and the more students you meet with that name, the association lessens. If, students aside, you really like Benjamin and your husband loves it, you may want to reconsider it. Once your little boy is born, you probably won’t associate the name with that student any more and you’ll love it because it’s your son’s name.

    Reply
  18. Liza says

    May 21, 2016 at 3:54 PM

    I think Henry is perfect but also like Edward or Bennett. For less uncommon what about Arthur, Harvey or Hugh? or Sebastian?

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  19. The Mrs. says

    May 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM

    Norman
    Bartholomew
    Whitaker
    Philip
    Simon
    Julian
    Forrest

    Hope that helps! Best wishes!

    Reply
  20. Sargjo says

    May 21, 2016 at 2:42 PM

    I’ll add Andrew. Unless you’ve known a terrible student :). Because you can get two nicknames out of the name I think it’s a safe choice in case you disliked an Andy but Drew still seems untainted by association.

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  21. Sophie says

    May 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM

    I’m a Sophie, and my brother is named Charles, called Charlie. My sister would have been Warren if she was a boy.

    Reply
  22. Tiffany says

    May 21, 2016 at 2:02 PM

    Sophie and Henry! Perfect.

    Reply
  23. Christine Butts says

    May 21, 2016 at 1:55 PM

    What a coincidence! My sister has a Sophia and an Emmett…if you were to go with Sophie and Bennet. Are you a Game of Thrones fan? Benjen (as in Benjen Stark) is a different twist on Benjamin. There are many, many names in that series that are a twist on traditional names that I think are very appealing. Eddard instead of Edward, for example.

    When I saw the heading of this article though, “A Brother for Sophie,” I instantly thought Sherman.

    Have fun deciding and congratulations on your new baby!

    Reply
  24. Amanda Grayson says

    May 21, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    When I saw Sophie’s name, I immediately thought of Edward. These are the names of the Duke and Duchess of Wessex but I don’t think most Americans are going to know that. Edward allows for some nicknames, is traditional and not that popular. But it isn’t unknown either. One source I looked at did mention Twilight, so that might be a factor.

    Reply
  25. Anna says

    May 21, 2016 at 1:31 PM

    Oliver!

    Reply
  26. Lettucehead says

    May 21, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    Beckett – historical name with modern sound. Great nicknames.

    Reply
    • appellationmountain says

      May 21, 2016 at 1:19 PM

      Good thought!

      Reply
  27. Sara says

    May 21, 2016 at 11:53 AM

    Two other ways to get to a Ben nickname: Benedict and Reuben. Both of these would be lovely with James as a middle name.

    Reply

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