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Name Help: Welcome Owen Isaac

May 19, 2023 By appellationmountain 21 Comments

Welcome Owen IsaacUPDATE: Nicole shares, “Thanks for so many suggestions and sharing your ideas. We almost decided to go for it and name him Henry anyway. But then one of my closest friends from childhood confided that they were naming their son – due a couple of weeks after me – Henry. And I just couldn’t do it! (Not that she would mind, but it felt like proof that Henry was everywhere.) We went back and forth between Owen, Nolan, and Julian for a while. In the end, Margot said that she liked Owen best. I went into labor that night, and he LOOKS like an Owen. We chose the middle name Isaac for the meaning. It took a while to get there, but we LOVE his name.”

Nicole writes:

We have a three year old daughter named Margot Irene. I love her name – the meaning, the sound, the way it’s traditional, but still feels fun.

Because we found out gender early, we never really talked about boy names with Margot. I’ve always liked Henry, but now it seems like the most popular name ever.

Other names we’ve talked about:

  • Archie – maybe too cute? my husband isn’t really on board
  • Callum – the M runs into our last name
  • Hank – saw this suggested instead of Jack, but can’t decide if it works
  • Jack – just too popular
  • Jasper – doesn’t sound good with our last name
  • Luca – love it, but we’re not even a little Italian
  • Milo – too close to Margot
  • Wells – the ‘S’ in Wells isn’t good with our last name

Our last name sounds like Mizz-ner. While I love the way Margot Mizz-ner sounds, I don’t think we want another M name. Besides, our friends have a Max, so I’m not sure there’s another M name I like for a boy anyway.

Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your new son!

It’s always tempting to look at a list of maybes and see if anything leaps out. Sometimes we like a name – but when other people love it, that changes the way we see it, too.

I do think Archie works completely fine as a stand-alone name.

My first instinct was to suggest Archer instead. Except that’s not great with your surname. Would you consider Arch? There’s a supporting character on The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel named Archie, often shortened to Arch, which makes me think it works really well. (And, of course, Arch Manning is the latest quarterback in the famous football family, named for his grandfather.)

But Archie seems like the best choice on your list so far … except that your husband isn’t wild about it.

Hank has potential, too – precisely because it’s so similar to Jack.

And I’m not sure if you have to be Italian – or even like pasta – to name your son Luca. The Pixar movie was all about friendship and bravery, so it has plenty of positive associations. That said, if you’d be annoyed every time someone asked if you were Italian? Then yes, give it a miss.

So let’s start fresh.

A BROTHER FOR MARGOT

ASA

Because vowel-ending names appeal to you, would you consider Asa? It’s familiar, but not nearly as common as Luca. I do think the ‘s’ in the middle of Asa works well with your surname. A little bit of repetition makes a name memorable.

CHARLIE

Because you like Henry and Hank and Jack, would you like Charlie? Not Charles … that’s another (likely) conflict with your surname. But just Charlie is casual, cool, and still complete.

EVERETT

Like Margot, Everett counts as a vintage favorite. But it’s very much a twenty-first century name, too.

HOLDEN

Callum’s final M sound does run into your M last name. But I think N-enders have potential. Holden has that same sophisticated, prep school energy as Margot.

JONAH

Reverse the vowel sounds in Margot, and you’ll arrive at Jonah. It’s perfectly balanced as a brother name.

JULIAN

Julian comes in at three syllables, but it doesn’t really feel like a long or overwhelming name.

OWEN

I wonder if another name with the long O sound would appeal? I’ll suggest Owen, a name that straddles the current/classic line – just like Margot!

ROWAN

Rowan is a modern unisex choice and surname name, too. Like Margot, it’s rising steadily in use, but still not at Liam/Noah/Oliver levels.

Overall my favorite is Jonah. Like Margot, it combines traditional status with a modern sound.  But Everett fits that same category, and sounds great with your surname, too.

Margot and Everett versus Margot and Jonah? I think the latter is more your style, but both are amazing.

I’m not sure how you’re choosing middle names, but is something related to your name an option? Everett Nico, maybe or Jonah Nichol? And, of course, Henry could be a perfect middle name, too. Jonah Henry might be my top pick.

Readers, over to you! What would you name a brother for Margot Irene?

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Comments

  1. Marie says

    May 23, 2023 at 9:52 PM

    Vaughn
    Nolan
    Blaine
    Guthrie
    Imrie
    Lyndreth
    Thane

    Reply
  2. Karoliina says

    May 21, 2023 at 8:42 AM

    You have lovely options! The first name that popped into my head was Mortimer. I like Grant, Clark and Kent too.

    Reply
  3. RJ says

    May 21, 2023 at 6:51 AM

    I think a few of these have already been suggested but how about:
    Margot and Simon
    Margot and Wallace (nn Ace)
    Margot and Arthur
    Margot and Logan
    Margot and Angus
    Margot and Felix

    Reply
  4. diane says

    May 20, 2023 at 11:41 PM

    I wouldn’t be afraid of alliteration. I ‘d like ti hear M@rgot and….
    Merrick Mizz-net
    Marshall Mizz-her

    Also….
    Nathaniel – Nat, Nate
    Edwin, Edward – Ned
    Sebastian

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  5. stefanie says

    May 20, 2023 at 3:14 PM

    I know the stats don’t necessarily support Henry being uber-popular but I know…six? or so? So I think it really depends on the community you’re in. It’s a lovely name but I hear ya. Anyway, Julian is a real winner in my book, especially with the nickname Jules. Jules Mizz-ner is wonderful on its own and with Margot. Julian Henry & Margot Irene.

    Reply
  6. stefanie says

    May 20, 2023 at 3:08 PM

    Really like the suggestion of Anton. Joanna Goddard’s son Anton has made the name grow on me!

    Reply
  7. Annie says

    May 20, 2023 at 8:42 AM

    Yep- Henry called Hank seems like a winner to me! I love that, it’s darling

    Reply
  8. Andrea says

    May 20, 2023 at 8:08 AM

    My grandfather’s middle name was Henrik, the Scandinavian version of Henry, as in Henrik Ibsen. You could also name him Henry and call him Hal, which is a bit more uncommon. Henry was probably the first name that pipped into my head when I saw Margot. Popularity is also relative. There aren’t as many boys named Henry as you might think and it’s unlikely to repeat in a classroom of 26 kids.

    There’s also Harold or Harald, also Scandinavian, also with the nickname Hal or Harry, and increasing in use.

    Or Harris, Harrison.

    I might also suggest going really old school with: Anton, Carl, Edgar, Edward, Edwin, Ernest, Franklin, Frederick, George, Graham, Guy, Howard, Kenneth, Lloyd, Neil, Philip, Ralph, Richard, Stephen, Vincent, Wallace, Warren.

    Reply
  9. Iris says

    May 20, 2023 at 5:06 AM

    Jonah
    Hendrik
    Carson
    Benson
    Peter
    Angus
    Felix
    Isaac
    Toby
    Grayson
    Arthur

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  10. eclare says

    May 20, 2023 at 2:41 AM

    Well, my Margot Ottilie Irene (impeccable taste, I must say!) has six brothers, and while I’m not going to list them all out, perhaps a few of their names/middles and names we considered would help…

    Bennett
    Edmund
    Lewis
    Simon
    Judah
    Atticus
    Clement
    Reuben
    Luke
    Samson
    Oscar
    Felix
    Walter
    Gabriel

    Reply
  11. Em says

    May 19, 2023 at 9:36 PM

    I knew a Margot and Casper sibling pair.

    Casper
    Judah
    Ace
    Axel

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  12. Christina Fonseca says

    May 19, 2023 at 8:33 PM

    Hank is/was traditionally a nickname for Henry. I think you have a winner with Margot and Hank, regardless of which name goes on the birth certificate.

    Reply
  13. keats says

    May 19, 2023 at 6:55 PM

    I also thought of Cormac! I think it is an awesome name! Margot and Cormac!

    I also loved Abby’s suggest of Owen. Margot and Owen.

    I like the long O sounds for you and the 2 syllables. But you seem to be leaning to more A sounds and to also like the single syllable… Callum, Jack, Hank etc. So what about Grant? Margot and Grant? Nathan/Nate?

    Ooh what about Peirce? Margot and Pierce? Uncommon yet known and dashing.

    Best of luck!

    Reply
  14. Erin Beth says

    May 19, 2023 at 6:46 PM

    Some of my favorite ideas for you:

    Alec
    Hal
    Ned
    Desmond
    Dermot
    Emmett
    Vaughn
    Shane
    Zane
    Zeke
    Basil

    Reply
  15. Maclary says

    May 19, 2023 at 6:32 PM

    I think Charlie is a great suggestion, because it rearranges Archie’s sounds into a name that has a Henry-feel to it.

    I was also going to suggest Callan instead of Callum, so second that. Colin is another possibility (which, actually, would be a subtle honour to you, as Nicole and Colin derive from the same source).

    I like Ari for you, as an alternative to Archie. Although it sounds very similar, it feels sophisticated and not at all cutesy.

    An out-of-the-box idea: Ajax. Rhymes with Max, sounds like Jack, sounds very cool with Margot.

    And finally, I’m not sure if you know that Hank is traditionally used as a short form of Henry. Because that absolutely seems like the best of both worlds – put Henry on the birth certificate, but use Hank everyday to differentiate him from the other Henrys he might encounter.

    Or, to take it a step further, use Henrik nn Hank! I love this with Margot.

    Reply
  16. Renée says

    May 19, 2023 at 2:25 PM

    Grady
    Flynn
    Davis
    Ansel

    I really like the suggestion of Cormac!

    Reply
  17. Name Enthusiast says

    May 19, 2023 at 1:41 PM

    Inspirations based off your list:
    Judah, Dean, Cal, Clark, Lee, Simon, Landon, Darren, Grant

    Though not looking for M options, Mark and Martin pair nicely. As does Graham with the the tiniest of pauses between Graham and surname.
    Congratulations!

    Reply
  18. Marisa says

    May 19, 2023 at 10:18 AM

    I have a Callum and would have loved Hank for our second son but we went with Lachlan. Since our style might be similar, other boy names on my list were:
    Killian
    Owen
    Morgan
    Ronan
    Cormac
    Kermit
    Caspar

    Reply
  19. A says

    May 19, 2023 at 9:12 AM

    Hank, Jack, and Archie made me think of Nate or Nat. Or Zachary “Zack”

    Archie and Jasper made me think of Oscar “Ozzy”

    Callan instead of Callum maybe? Or Callahan or Calvin

    Jude instead of Jack

    Ezra instead of Luca

    Arlo or Leo instead of Milo

    Hayes instead of Wells…I don’t think the S sound conflicts with the surname 🙂

    Reply
  20. FE says

    May 19, 2023 at 8:44 AM

    Luke
    Jude
    Heath
    Frank
    Calvin

    Reply
  21. Istas says

    May 19, 2023 at 8:34 AM

    Levi
    Emmett
    Donovan
    Ronan
    Orion
    Josiah

    Reply

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