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WE CANNOT CALL THE BABY BOB
Julie writes:
My husband is Robert Jr. His dad is Bob. My husband has always been Robbie. He never grew into Rob, and pretty much everyone calls him Robbie, all the time.
We have two daughters, Naomi and Clara. They both have my last name as their middle name, which sounds like Kess-plus-L. Our last name sounds like Bryn-plus-son.
With our girls, we never considered family names. I really didn’t think we would consider naming a son Robert, either. But now that we’re actually expecting a son, and boys’ names are so hard, the idea of naming a son Robert is growing on us both.
But … my husband is Robbie. I do not want to call a baby Bob. And I can’t get into Bobby, either. So that leaves … Robert? Rob?
I floated Robin but I don’t think it would stick.
We do plan to use my last name for all of our kids’ middle names, so we don’t really have the option of making his middle name Robert. (And that wouldn’t solve the whole first name problem anyway.)
I’m not even sure what I’m asking, but is there any way to make this work?
Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.
IF BOB ISN’T AN OPTION, WHAT ELSE MIGHT WORK?
Abby replies:
Congratulations on your new son!
This is a puzzle, isn’t it? In theory, yes, your son could be Robert or Rob all the time, leaving your husband Robbie. In practice? I’m not sure if that would happen.
If the name were William or Michael, I might give a cautious greenlight. That’s because those names are commonly used in full for children born now.
But I feel like a baby Robert might be a stretch.
I think you have a few options:
- Find a new nickname, even if it’s not a default choice. Besides the obvious Bob/Bobby/Rob/Robbie, I’ve also heard Bert and Bo. I’m really loving the idea of Bo for you. It’s current, fun, and energetic. Is it a stretch? A little. But people will understand when they hear it’s a nickname for a family name. And I’ve heard more than one Robert-called-Bo, so I think at least some people will recognize it. (It’s really just dropping that second B in Bob, isn’t it?)
- Consider a different middle name. This might be a non-starter, but if your son were named, say, Robert Julian, he could be RJ – if that appeals at all. This works better if your son completes your family. Otherwise, you’d be in a bit of a bind with a second son. (Would he also have the middle name Julian? Or would he share your last name with his sisters? You’d have choices, of course, but it might feel more challenging.)
- Speaking of middle names, is your husband’s middle an option? You don’t mention what Roberts one and two have as middle names. Could you pass that down? I realize the intent isn’t to find an honor name, but this might be worth considering.
- Or accept that you’re better off choosing a new name. We’ll brainstorm those below, and I know readers will have some great suggestions, too.
A BROTHER FOR NAOMI and CLARA
EVERETT
Naomi is an Old Testament name; Clara is Latin, by way of Italian. Everett is Old English. I like the way they’re completely distinct, but still go together.
GRAHAM
Graham is one of those names rising in the rankings, even though would ever call it trendy. It’s got a classic vibe, a straightforward style, but it’s interesting, too.
ISAAC
It’s been a popular name for some time, and obviously Isaac’s roots are ancient. I like the way it shares Naomi’s I and Clara’s C.
LEVI
A strong sound with that appealing letter V, Levi sounds great with your surname.
MATTHEW
When you talk about Robert, I wonder if what you’re really drawn to are classic names for boys? There are lots of options, but Matthew is the one that leapt out at me, maybe because so many Matt names, like Mateo, are also having a moment.
MILES
Miles is, like Clara and Naomi, a name that feels both stylish and traditional. I love with your surname, and again, it’s a slightly different origin from your girls’ names, which balances them out nicely.
NATHANIEL
I almost wanted to suggest Gabe or Rafe or another short name, but I ended up with Graham instead. And then I thought of Nathaniel. I like the way it’s long like Naomi, but could easily shorten to Nate. Naomi, Clara, Nate … as long as you don’t mind repeating an initial, I think it works well.
XAVIER
A name with two high value Scrabble letters, but still a traditional vibe? No wonder Xavier has been popular in recent years. I love it for your family, particularly with your surname.
Overall, I’m really torn! I love the idea of Robert called Bo, but I’m not sure it’s my top pick. It does feel like maybe it’s the only name you can agree on right now, and that’s not always the same thing as The Right Name.
Instead, I’m almost inclined to suggest Isaac Robert or Xavier Kess-plus-L. Everett, too, really appeals to me. Naomi, Clara, and Everett Kess-plus-L Bryn-plus-son.
Lastly, I’d be remiss if I didn’t add this: are you sure Bobby wouldn’t grown on you? If you find it objectionable, then naming your son Robert is a potential problem. Because I can easily imagine Bobby being the nickname that sticks – regardless of your preferences.
But if it’s just a general “I can’t see this name on a baby” kind of reaction? It’s worth examining that, too. Sometimes we can’t imagine it until the actual baby arrives, and then everything just clicks into place.
I love all these nickname options! And I honestly think you could use ANY of them quite easily. “He’s Robert after his grandfather and father so we call him X.” is brief and sensible. Bo is adorable and that would probably be my go-to as well, or RJ (Robert Junior.) But Rex!! Trip!! Roscoe! And Rupert is perfection with the sibset.
I also agree names can come from interesting places – we had a little friend Oliver who couldn’t pronounce Ollie clearly so everyone thought it was ‘Ari’ and when he turned five his parents actually changed his name legally to Ari, cause they loved it.
But if you’re just choosing Robert cause you can’t find anything else and why not, well, maybe keep looking. By the time your son is having kids (if he does) the ‘first son gets father’s name’ thing may be even more antiquated. Start a new tradition? You could put K3ss3l up front. That’s a really cool name. Or maybe third child gets initials you and your husband. JR or RJ. I know a few kids with initials on their birth certificate. Or Robert Julian. Or Julian Robert – JR or Junior.
If Birdie is a nickname for Roberta, then your son could be Robert “Bird/Byrd”!
โข Robert k3ss3l could make the name Rock
Another thought – If you keep the same middle name and use Robert K., what about calling him Ricky for “RK”? I kind of love it!
My grandmother was Roberta nn Bobbie so I am partial to Bobby for a little boy. I also love Robin. Bo is cute. Rocky Balboa was a Robert and Robbie and Rocky is sweet. A few other nicknames for Robert include Ro, Bet, or RJ (for Robert Jr.). Congrats!
Congratulations on your third baby!
What about using initials as a nn even if you use your maiden name as his middle? RK could work. Bertie is cute but I like Bo and Rex too. Our 3rd child has a nickname made up from the way my older children pronounced his name when he was born. People ask me to pronounce it a second time sometime we, but thatโs what he goes by at school now. When heโs older, he can default to a more traditional shortening of his name if he outgrows this nickname, or he can use his name in full. All that to say people will pick up on a nickname & use it, even if itโs not an obvious one.
Also, I know a young Robert whom Iโve only heard called Robert. Itโs just a name they liked, not an honour name. He is around 6-7 now.
One more idea-
Roland nn Rollo
Clara, Naomi & Roland
Hi- I like the suggestion of Robert nn Bo. You could also just name him Bo. It is a Scandinavian name and it means โto live.โ I have a few other suggestions for you:
Rupert – German form of Robert nn Ru
Clara, Naomi & Rupert
Roscoe – shares the first two letters with Robertโฆ Clara, Naomi & Roscoe
Bo (as mentioned above)-
Clara, Naomi & Bo
Bartholomew – nn Tolly
Clara, Naomi & Bartholomew
Best wishes!!
What about Robert Kess-plus-L called “Rex”? It’s a bit stretchy but the sounds are there and nicknames don’t always have to make sense 100%. I think it’s definitely fun and cool.
Naomi, Clara, and Rex
Otherwise, I think Robert “Bo” would be a great choice as well .
Robert, Naomi, and Clara and feel familiar yet not overused. Here are some other names that may fit if you decide against Robert:
Zachary
Peter
Philip
Grant
Jonathan
Elliot
Lewis
Wesley
Oscar
I like Abby’s suggestion of Miles as well.
Since he would be Robert III and is the third kiddo, why not a nickname playing off of the third status like Trey or Trip?
Congrats on your baby boy! Perhaps you can name him Robert and call him Trey, as previously suggested, since he will be the third Robert.
Also, I think calling him Robert will be just fine. It’s no more of a stretch than using any other name in full.
Many congratulations.
Robert -Berty
Obert – French sounding
Bear
Tobe – Toby
Rory -Tory
Are all possible nn for Robert
Otherwise I think Peter works really well with your family