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WE CANNOT CALL THE BABY BOB
Julie writes:
My husband is Robert Jr. His dad is Bob. My husband has always been Robbie. He never grew into Rob, and pretty much everyone calls him Robbie, all the time.
We have two daughters, Naomi and Clara. They both have my last name as their middle name, which sounds like Kess-plus-L. Our last name sounds like Bryn-plus-son.
With our girls, we never considered family names. I really didn’t think we would consider naming a son Robert, either. But now that we’re actually expecting a son, and boys’ names are so hard, the idea of naming a son Robert is growing on us both.
But … my husband is Robbie. I do not want to call a baby Bob. And I can’t get into Bobby, either. So that leaves … Robert? Rob?
I floated Robin but I don’t think it would stick.
We do plan to use my last name for all of our kids’ middle names, so we don’t really have the option of making his middle name Robert. (And that wouldn’t solve the whole first name problem anyway.)
I’m not even sure what I’m asking, but is there any way to make this work?
Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.
IF BOB ISN’T AN OPTION, WHAT ELSE MIGHT WORK?
Abby replies:
Congratulations on your new son!
This is a puzzle, isn’t it? In theory, yes, your son could be Robert or Rob all the time, leaving your husband Robbie. In practice? I’m not sure if that would happen.
If the name were William or Michael, I might give a cautious greenlight. That’s because those names are commonly used in full for children born now.
But I feel like a baby Robert might be a stretch.
I think you have a few options:
- Find a new nickname, even if it’s not a default choice. Besides the obvious Bob/Bobby/Rob/Robbie, I’ve also heard Bert and Bo. I’m really loving the idea of Bo for you. It’s current, fun, and energetic. Is it a stretch? A little. But people will understand when they hear it’s a nickname for a family name. And I’ve heard more than one Robert-called-Bo, so I think at least some people will recognize it. (It’s really just dropping that second B in Bob, isn’t it?)
- Consider a different middle name. This might be a non-starter, but if your son were named, say, Robert Julian, he could be RJ – if that appeals at all. This works better if your son completes your family. Otherwise, you’d be in a bit of a bind with a second son. (Would he also have the middle name Julian? Or would he share your last name with his sisters? You’d have choices, of course, but it might feel more challenging.)
- Speaking of middle names, is your husband’s middle an option? You don’t mention what Roberts one and two have as middle names. Could you pass that down? I realize the intent isn’t to find an honor name, but this might be worth considering.
- Or accept that you’re better off choosing a new name. We’ll brainstorm those below, and I know readers will have some great suggestions, too.
A BROTHER FOR NAOMI and CLARA
EVERETT
Naomi is an Old Testament name; Clara is Latin, by way of Italian. Everett is Old English. I like the way they’re completely distinct, but still go together.
GRAHAM
Graham is one of those names rising in the rankings, even though would ever call it trendy. It’s got a classic vibe, a straightforward style, but it’s interesting, too.
ISAAC
It’s been a popular name for some time, and obviously Isaac’s roots are ancient. I like the way it shares Naomi’s I and Clara’s C.
LEVI
A strong sound with that appealing letter V, Levi sounds great with your surname.
MATTHEW
When you talk about Robert, I wonder if what you’re really drawn to are classic names for boys? There are lots of options, but Matthew is the one that leapt out at me, maybe because so many Matt names, like Mateo, are also having a moment.
MILES
Miles is, like Clara and Naomi, a name that feels both stylish and traditional. I love with your surname, and again, it’s a slightly different origin from your girls’ names, which balances them out nicely.
NATHANIEL
I almost wanted to suggest Gabe or Rafe or another short name, but I ended up with Graham instead. And then I thought of Nathaniel. I like the way it’s long like Naomi, but could easily shorten to Nate. Naomi, Clara, Nate … as long as you don’t mind repeating an initial, I think it works well.
XAVIER
A name with two high value Scrabble letters, but still a traditional vibe? No wonder Xavier has been popular in recent years. I love it for your family, particularly with your surname.
Overall, I’m really torn! I love the idea of Robert called Bo, but I’m not sure it’s my top pick. It does feel like maybe it’s the only name you can agree on right now, and that’s not always the same thing as The Right Name.
Instead, I’m almost inclined to suggest Isaac Robert or Xavier Kess-plus-L. Everett, too, really appeals to me. Naomi, Clara, and Everett Kess-plus-L Bryn-plus-son.
Lastly, I’d be remiss if I didn’t add this: are you sure Bobby wouldn’t grown on you? If you find it objectionable, then naming your son Robert is a potential problem. Because I can easily imagine Bobby being the nickname that sticks – regardless of your preferences.
But if it’s just a general “I can’t see this name on a baby” kind of reaction? It’s worth examining that, too. Sometimes we can’t imagine it until the actual baby arrives, and then everything just clicks into place.
I love the idea of Rocky for Robert Kess-l
But if you just need some ideas for a boy’s name, I suggest:
Jonah
Milo
Luke
Evan
Wyatt
Leo
Seth
Harry
Magnus
Julian (for mom)
David
Felix
Agreeing with previous commenters on the following points-
1) a baby Robert just isn’t weird to me. I hear lots of very adult names on kids these days (Mark, John, Joseph, David etc with no nickname)
2) Trip or Trey are great options that sound energetic and upbeat.
3) Bertie would be super cute, especially if he’s the baby of the family. I know a 2 year old Bertie (actually a third generation Albert) and it totally works.
Bert and Bertie were my first thoughts, too. I too know a number of Michael not Mikes, etc., if using Robert in full appeals.
It sounds like you don’t have a strong negative association with Bob or Bobby; they’re just not names you imagine using for a baby.
Like Abby said, there’s always a chance your son might choose one of those names for himself. It could be worthwhile to consider whether you could live with those options, even if you don’t actively encourage them.
I had a student named Bobby (named for his father), and it suited him! I also think Robert and Rob work fine for a baby.
Here are some other options you could consider:
Artie (from R.T. as in Three)
Bear (from the French pronunciation of Robert)
Bertie
Ro
Robbo
Robbs
Rocco / Rock / Rocky (the fictional Rocky Balboa is a Robert)
Rory
Trey (once a standard nickname for boys sharing their name with two previous generations)
You could also call him “Little Robbie” while he’s an infant and see whether any nicknames arise organically. Nicknames can come from all sorts of places – quirky behaviors, physical traits, cute mispronunciations by older siblings.
Another possibility would be to explore other names that start with R or even Ro-. You might find something you like by narrowing your focus. For example:
Rodney
Roger
Roland
Roman
Ronan
Ross
Rowan
Finally, riffing off of Abby’s suggestion, what about giving your son a name from your side of the family? For example, you could honor the family tradition of using a parent’s name, but draw inspiration from Julie, instead:
Jules
Julian / Julien
Julius
Juniper
I think you have lots of possibilities!
I love the suggestion of RT (Artie) for Robert the Third. My brother was sometimes called KJ (for junior) even though his initials were KA, and he wasn’t technically a junior.
I like Bo and Robin quite a bit. You could also just name him Robin or Robinson, which is cute and honors both Roberts. Other nickname options could be Ro, Hob, Hobbes, Rocket, Dob, or Dobbin, if any of them appeal.