My husband and I are expecting our fourth child and second girl this October. We’ve always wanted a big family, and think we might even have one more baby after this one. Or even maybe two?! 🙂
Our children’s names are Elizabeth Anne, Daniel Edward, and James Henry. Not family names or anything. We sometimes call them Lizzie, Danny, and Jamie at home, but mostly Elizabeth, Daniel, and James.
Boring, right? Well, growing up, I hated, hated, hated spelling my name and how the ‘ee’ always seemed so cutesy-pie. I wanted my kids to have names that could pass the “Supreme Court Justice test.”
But now I’m worrying that we went too far the other way. We know kids named Ridgley (girl), Daxon, Henley (girl), Lorelai, Justice (girl), Arlo, and Jaxson. And there are more!
So … is a crazy name now so normal that our kids will stick out with their “safe” names?
My husband thinks that I’m being silly, and we should stick with the girl names we’ve had in mind for the last two pregnancies: Charlotte, Caroline, Eleanor, Rebecca, Amelia, Sophia, Claire. But none of them seem quite right any more, and he’s never really made the final decision.
His sister has daughters named Abigail and Katherine – Abby and Kate. So those or anything that sounds like them are out. Which is too bad, because Gabrielle was one of my favorites when we were naming Elizabeth, but now – Gabby and Abby? No thanks!
Our last name starts with H and ends with -on.
I think you’re having one of those 21st century parenting experiences. We reject Genoveva or Mercy or Bix because, well, who names their kids those things? We tell ourselves that we’re not celebrities and/or hippies, and therefore these names would make no sense in our far less glamorous/freewheeling corner of the world.
And then we go to a few playdates or maybe kindergarten orientation and we’re introduced to Persephone and Markham and – wait – is Raleigh a boy or a girl?
Suddenly it seems like our out-there list was completely ordinary, and we wonder if we shouldn’t have made a bolder choice.
So the moment of uncertainty you’re having is perfectly normal, and the good news?
You’re in one of those rare have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too parenting moments.
Let’s look at your options, as well as the specific names that fit with each strategy, as well as a few things that I’d suggest you avoid.
Strategy One: Choose something just as traditional as the names on your current list, but less popular.
I’m guessing that you meet lots of people with your kids’ names, across a wide range of ages. That’s the strength of traditional names. Looking at your current shortlist, only one of them is not currently in the US Top 100 (Rebecca – #183 and falling as of 2014), and both Charlotte and Sophia are in the current Top Ten.
But plenty of names feel traditional, but are much less popular. You could consider Margaret (#169 and rising), Jane (#322 and climbing), Mariana (#331 and rising), Helen (#404 and climbing), Louise (not in the Top 1000), Susan (#851 and falling), or … well, lots of other names that don’t feel out of place with Elizabeth, Daniel, and James, but aren’t nearly as common.
Strategy Two: Choose something slightly less traditional.
There are lots of names that feel traditionalish. Rose is classic, Bluebell is out there, but Iris splits the difference. Or maybe Georgia or Dorothy? Daphne, Delia, Serena, Annika, Esme, or Maude?
One consideration is whether or not you’ll choose a name with nickname potential. Your first three children have nicknames, at least for family use. That makes me think that you’re better off with a name like Anneliese than one like Hazel.
Strategy Three: Go big in the middle spot.
This is a strategy that I truly love: stick with a traditional first name, then go big in the middle spot. Do you have names that you love, love, love but always considered them much too bold? Sarah Hadley, Grace Everild, Alice Magnolia, Julia Seven. The traditional first is an anchor; the less expected – or even unconventional! – middle is a fun surprise.
Strategy Four: Choose a popular name that isn’t quite a classic.
I can easily imagine sisters named Elizabeth and Penelope. Or Elizabeth and Josephine or Elizabeth and Madeline. None of those names are out-there, but that’s at least partially because they’re Top 100 choices, names that we’re hearing on lots of girls right now. You might even go a little farther afield. Elizabeth and Avery, maybe, especially if you chose a really classic middle name. Elizabeth Anne and Avery Charlotte, maybe.
There’s quite a bit of overlap between the strategies, and I think that speaks to how many options you have to choose something just slightly different.
Now, for a few guidelines:
- I would suggest that you avoid gender neutral names for your daughter. A boy named Parker would be just a little bit different, but a girl called Parker? That feels like a sharp departure from your traditional style.
- I’d also suggest you avoid a very short name for your daughter. I dropped Pearl for this reason. Joanna might be a little bit better than Jane. I say this because you’re already shortening your children’s names, at least at home. If a comparable nickname doesn’t come naturally, it’s another way that the name will stand out.
- At the same time, I’m not sure you want to choose a very frilly name. Elizabeth feels tailored and restrained, as do many of the possibilities on your list. It makes me think that something like Annalise might be a better fit than, say, Arabella.
Lastly, let’s talk about specific names.
Margaret seems like a sister for Elizabeth. Just as tailored and classic, with plenty of nickname options if you so choose. But it’s not nearly as popular.
Beatrice – Again, it’s a name that’s every bit as classic, but not as common. It’s also literary – think Potter, as well as Dante’s lost love.
Penelope – Penelope is very popular at the moment, but that’s a bonus in your case. While Penelope still feels a little bit quirky and offbeat, any name that climbs so quickly into the US Top 50 isn’t really out-there anymore. It shortens easily, too.
Dorothy – Dorothy is a vintage name. It comes from the same roots as Theodore and Theodora and Dorothea, so it’s certainly not novel. But it’s a bolder choice than many of the names on your girls’ list, and a rarer one, too.
Louise or Louisa – I think tailored Louise fits in slightly better with your shortlist. As classic as Charlotte or Caroline or Elizabeth, Louise is far more rare. Lucy and Lulu are charming nicknames for family use. It’s a little bit different, but only just.
Genevieve – I don’t think we can quite call Genevieve a classic, though it’s a name with long history. It’s got quite a bit of appeal today, too, ranked #210 and climbing as of 2014. In many ways, it reminds me of Gabrielle – French, tailored, but feminine. A very similar name option: Vivienne, or even Vivian.
In each case, I think you could choose a bolder middle name, too. Or maybe this is the moment for your beloved Gabrielle. It would make a great middle, too!
Readers, what would you suggest to Ashlee?
I love Penelope with Elizabeth, Daniel and James. Lizzie, Danny, Jamie and Penny.
I also thought of Marion (Merry) or Adelaide (Addy)?
Love Andrea’s girls!
My suggestion was going to be Miriam…nn Mim or Mimi 🙂
Margot & Caroline's Mom says
You can’t go wrong with Elizabeth … and I love Lizzie as nickname it seems more current than some other more common nicknames for the name. I thought of Colette, not widely used but a classic and I think Coco is such a cute on-point nickname. Lizzie and Coco, sounds like a high end kids clothing line! Good luck.
Mary M says
Regarding Gabrielle, I never cared for Gabby as a nickname so think the suggestions for Bree of Elle (Ella) are lovely. Another nn possibility is Brielle, it is a diminutive of Gabrielle. I know two girls with that (Brielle) as their given name.
I changed up my style with my seventh baby. I had three girls–Miriam, Emeline, and Harriet–and then my last baby I couldn’t settle on another smart, old-lady name. My hubby agreed to everything on my list: Annabel, Lois, Prudence, but nothing was right. I couldn’t settle and felt more and more panicked about her name. Then I saw a list titled: Names that no one has heard of yet but will be wildly popular in five years. Clover was on the list and I knew, instantly, that it was her name. It isn’t three syllables, it doesn’t have a long history of impressive women bearing the name, it wasn’t even on my radar. Some days I don’t even think I like it that much! I think, sometimes, that babies know what they want to be called and the parents just have to figure it out. If you are feeling unsettled about your list, maybe your baby has a different name in mind and you just have to find it!
Andrea, I thought of you and Clover often while I was working on this – thanks for sharing your experience!
The fact that so many of these names are top ten shows that you don’t have to worry about them ‘standing out’ in a negative way. Classic names are classic for a reason! Fwiw I love your list and my kids have similar names with no regrets.
Elizabeth and Margaret are perfect sister name, as Queen Elizabeth’s sister is/was Princess Margaret.
It seems to me you have a tailored, classic style. Your names are not too safe, they simply follow a different trend, particularly because they tend to use their full names And if they decide they want edgier names later on, they can use nicknames to get there. (Lizee, maybe. Or maybe not.)
I like all of the names you listed, and several of the names Abby did, too. Trust your instincts, they are solid.
I read birth notices almost every day, and I’ve noticed that it’s not uncommon for parents to have David, Jasmine … and then Benedict. Or Lily, Sophie, Harry … and Kiki. I figure if you have enough children, you will eventually get to your “guilty pleasure” names! So I think you are pretty normal wanting to go for something slightly more exciting after several children.
My first thought was Susannah – it’s a beautiful traditional non-frilly name that sounds lovely with your children, has tons of nickname options, and it’s not on the US Top 1000.
Sarah G says
It would be a shame to throw out the name Gabrielle if you really have an affinity for it due to a cousin with a vaguely similar name. As Christina said there are other nicknames such as Bree or Elle if you wanted to keep it on the short list.
Margaret and Louisa in my opinion would be a lovely fit with the other sibling names. Margaret also has oodles of nickname options as you can see from Abby’s recent post on the name. Good luck!
I enjoyed this post a lot. I also have older children with very traditional names and a husband who sees no reason to shake things up. I think Beatrice is a lovely suggestion! Similar to her older children’s names but a bolder choice.
Christina Fonseca says
Gabrielle nicknamed Bree would give you the name you like and a nickname that does not rhyme with her cousin. I think it fights right in. No sense in choosing one of the names you had considered before if you’re no longer loving them, Good luck choosing.
Great thoughts Abby. Always enjoy your blog!
I immediately thought of Martha and Matilda — both classic, traditional names but not too popular, both with great nickname potential. (Mattie, Tilly).