Name Help is a series at Appellation Mountain. Every week, one reader’s name questions will be discussed.
We’re relying on thoughtful comments from the community to help expectant parents narrow down their name decisions. Thank you in advance for sharing your insight!
As a child I loved the book series “The Famous Five” by Enid Blyton, and was especially drawn to the character of Georgina, a strong and fiery girl who insisted on people calling her George. I fell in love with the idea of a spunky girl with a “boy” name, and for as long as I can remember planned to name my future daughter Ryan or James.
But I was destined to have a boy first. My husband and I were truly stumped on boy names until someone suggested Asher – it was close, but not quite right. But what about Ashley?
I immediately fell in love. Ashley felt classic – traditional, but fresh and surprising. A male Ashley would be smart, sophisticated, handsome, and kind. Adding the family (and masculine) name, Archer as a middle name sealed the deal. People are always caught off guard by his name, and I love watching them come around to it. It suits him perfectly.
Now I am pregnant with Ashley’s sister, and I think it would be unfair to give her a “boy” name and sentence the siblings to a lifetime of people confusing their names. You may think that a name with a “boy” nickname could work (like Charlie for Charlotte) but my husband and I are just not drawn to common or feminine names.
We want a name that is as surprising and unique as Ashley, but that is as strong and feisty as we know this little one is.
Sloane has been the top contender, but I’m just not fully committed – I think because I worry it is not as unique as Ashley. It’s in the Top 200 girl names, after all.
I’ve recently been thinking about Adair – it sounds lovely with Ashley, but I’m not sure my husband will think it as strong as Sloane. Perhaps Campbell? Ash and Bell sound sweet together.
Bonus points for a name that works with the middle name Whimsy. A surprising suggestion from my husband with such offbeat English aristocratic charm that I haven’t been able to forget it. I also appreciate the alliteration with our surname, a one-syllable name beginning with W.
Double bonus points if it works – or at least doesn’t sound awful – in French!
Please read on for my response and leave your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.
Congratulations on your new daughter!
Ashley Archer is a handsome name. It sounds like a nineteenth century gentleman and a twenty-first century boy, all at the same time.
But it does create a puzzle, doesn’t it? If I hear Ashley and Ryan, I immediately assume they are the opposite genders. (And perhaps the parents, rather than the children – Ashley peaked for girls in the late 1980s, and Ryan a few years earlier, so peak mom and dad names right about now.) There’s nothing wrong with that necessarily … but I can see it’s potentially awkward.
Let’s take a step back and think about Ashley’s name more broadly:
- Ashley started out as a surname, meaning “ash tree clearing.”
- Like many surnames, it sometimes appeared as a first for boys and occasionally girls.
- Fashion designer Laura Ashley probably put the name on the map in the 1960s and 70s. It was already on the upswing when soap opera The Young and the Restless boosted Ashley for girls even more. It entered the US Top Ten not long after.
- But Ashley never left its masculine roots entirely. Nickname Ash is familiar for boys. More conventionally masculine choices like Ashton and Asher have fared well in recent years. Sound-wise, Ashley fits right in with those other Ash- names, as well as current favorites like Wesley.
So maybe the trick is this: find a surname-style name that’s equally rare, every bit as difficult to pin as masculine or feminine and possibly offers a conventionally feminine nickname, too.
In other words? Adair is perfect.
It’s never appeared in the US Top 1000. While it’s derived from Edgar, it doesn’t feel strongly masculine or feminine. Potential nickname Addie makes it even more accessible, just like Ash for Ashley. As for strength? The “dare” sound is right there in the name. Adair sounds like a tightrope walker or an alligator tamer, while still feeling polished enough to belong to a surgeon or an academic.
But if you need some other suggestions …
A SISTER FOR ASHLEY ARCHER
BELLAMY – Campbell is great! Bellamy also leads to Bell and because it’s the first syllable, maybe it’s even more obvious?
ELLERY – It just doesn’t make sense that Ellery is so rare, not in our age of Elliott and Ella. But it is quite uncommon.
GREER – Originally a contracted form of Gregory, Oscar-winning actor Greer Garson put this name on the list of possibilities for girls, too.
HALSTON – As in the designer who owned the 1970s. It’s a little bit Hal, a little bit Allison.
LAINE, LANE – My first though was Lanier or Lainier, but Americans tend to pronounce it lah-neer, which seems less appealing. But Lane and Laine have plenty of potential. While Lane ranks just above the current boys’ Top 250, it feels unisex. The spelling Laine seems more obviously feminine. And Lainey ranks around #350 for girls.
MARLOWE – In our age of Harlow and Margot, Marlowe seems like it ought to be more common. But it isn’t, and I think it’s an obvious substitute for Sloane.
THAYER – The TH sound is back. Just ask Theo and Thea. A cousin to Taylor, Thayer occurs less often as a last name – and very seldom as a first.
WALLIS – The late Duchess of Windsor makes this surname name just feminine enough, and perhaps slightly retro. (She was born Bessie Wallis Warfield.) But now that the scandal has faded into history, it leaves Wallis as an appealing choice – tailored, flowing, somewhere between Alyssa and Willa. Except then her initials would be WWW, which might be WAY too much. Or not …
AN OLD-FASHIONED NAME FOR ASHLEY’S SISTER
Another key quality to the name Ashley? It’s nicely old-fashioned, a name that could be riding a horse in shiny boots and a fancy coat. Maybe an old-fashioned girls’ name – one with a sparky, high-energy nickname – would work, too?
CECILY – Cecilia is pretty mainstream, but Cecily – the medieval English version of the name – has never quite caught on. It’s lacy and feminine, but nickname Cece/Ceci is bright and energetic.
GEORGETTE – Are you sure you want to let go of your original inspiration? Georgette called Georgie – or Gigi or Jett – seems like it hits the same style category as Ashley.
LOUISE – I mentioned Louise only because nicknames Lou, Lula, and Lulu are all so, so good.
MIRIAM – Call her Miri or Mimi or Midge. It’s a retro classic with casual short forms galore.
THEODORA – I know you don’t love Charlotte-called-Charlie. But how ’bout Theodora called Theo, Thea, or Teddy/Teddie?
ASHLEY’S SISTER SHOULD BE …
I really cannot beat Adair. I think it’s The Name!
But Georgette, with all those nicknames, seems like a dark horse candidate, worthy of consideration.
If we stick to the surname category, I think Marlowe and Laine/Lane are the best alternatives to Sloane – strong, less common, very wearable, and just as unisex.
A tough brief! How about one of the following that I think meet the brief of: traditional meets modern, not mega popular, works in French, fits with Ashley and with middle name Whimsy.
Ashley Archer and
To add, as a Brit, Ashley is totally masculine for me (and very handsome!)
OOH …these are great. Cleo Whimsy is just stunning!
How about Blythe? It fits with the unisex surname theme, but as an old English word it also fits nicely with the old fashioned English feel of a boy named Ashley.
Sloane was my first thought before seeing their considerations! For retro names, I wonder about Mabel?
Brother Ashley and sister Jasper!
Another Nicole says
I love Ashley Archer for a boy! 10/10
There are already so many great suggestions here!!! Ill add
Caraway or Calloway
I think so many last names and place names might work beautifully too.
Love, love, love the idea of Caraway …
Ashley Archer is a nice twist on bringing back a classic to the boys again and making it fresh.
Out of Abby’s suggestions, I really like: Halston Whimsy or Bellamy Whimsy.
And if I had to add to recommendations, I’d say:
– QUINTON (nickname “Quinn”) Whimsy
Personally, I think if you’re comfortable repeating the letter “A” for a first name, then by all means do so! Sib-set alliterative first names can sometimes add to the bond between siblings. And I agree that the opportunity to use “Adair” as a 1st name doesn’t always present itself so welcomingly. Embrace it if that’s your favorite name between you and your partner!
I love your favorites: Adair & Georgette.
Either would be great on a baby girl. “Whimsy” is super cool for a nickname and I swear I thought of this word multiple times today for w/e reason, so I think I’m here to encourage you to use it as a middle too!!
Trust your instincts!! Best of luck x
Erin Beth says
Adair is perfect! I really like Bellamy too. A few more ideas:
My first thought was Ellis, but I love the idea of Adair and think that Robin is a fabulous suggestion. How good is Robin Whimsy?? Love it.
Some other ideas: Jocelyn, Kim or Kym, Noel, Drew, Brooke, Hollis
Or, what about Jem or Gem as an alternative to James? It could be short for Gemma or Jemima, or stand on its own.
Or maybe just Bell on its own?
If you love Sloan, go for it! It fits with Ashley in a British uppercrust theme, to me.
Adair is lovely, if your hubby is on board. I wouldn’t use the overused nickname Addie for it though.
I keep going back to your wish of Unique, Surprising, Strong, Fiesty. The reason Ashley is unique and surprising that is that very few people are choosing for boys now. Sloan doesn’t feel surprising, nor does Campbell. Surnames for girls is a trend. Definitely some are less used.
Would you consider nouns instead? Those still feel surprising and unique to me when I encounter one on a child. Noble, Marvel, Anthem, Sonnet, Jubilee, Prairie, Cape, Quill? Love Ashley Archer & Cape Whimsy!
I’m not sure if I’m in the ballpark with this suggestion since it may be too similar to that Charlotte called Charlie style you’re not big on but I wonder if you would like something like Winifred called Wynn or Freddie?
Winifred Whimsey and Ashley Archer.
Ash and Wynn
But you said your last name also begins with W so maybe Winifred is too much
I think Adair or Campbell really hit the mark with what you may be looking for and I love that Adair could be called Ada or Addie or Campbell could be Cammie or Belle for some added feminine flair.
Oh! What about just Elle? Ellie is a cute nickname if you want that option but maybe it will seem too popular with the current rise of Eleanor and Ella.
Other ideas: Auden, Palmer, Devin, Blair, Eden, Elin (ee-lyn), Ainsley, Sage, Noa, Robin(!), Afton, Royce, Madigan (nickname Maddie), Larson, Carlisle (nickname Carrie or Lyla or Lily?), Keaton
This was kind of a tough one for me so I’m not sure if I’m hitting the mark but just some ideas, good luck!
What about Robin? I’ve equally met boys and girls with this name.
Ashley and Robin.
Oh! Or Clarion! Surname, but can use Claire’s.
Ashley and Clarion
I personally don’t think Ryan creates an issue, but maybe only because I knew a female Ryan.
If not James, perhaps Jaime
If not Sloan maybe Blair?
If not Adair maybe Astoria? Ashley and Astoria are lovely together.Astoria Whimsy is also gorgeous.
I do think you should consider Georgina, Georgiana, or Georgette nickname Gigi. Georgina Whimsy is just adorable.
Darcy technically fits, but something is just not quite there for me.
Devan Whimsy and Dylan Whimsy both work, same story as Darcy though.
Evan Whimsy, yes I know Evan is typically masculine, but my first though is ALWAYS Evan Rachel Wood
I’m not quite sure of Patterson Whimsy (nn Patsy just like Patsy Cline) but Patterson and Ashley or Patsy and Ash are swoon worthy together.
Arlen Whimsy, there’s really no nickname, but i think this hits a sweet spot. It has use as a surname, masculine given name, and feminine given name. Alternate spelling Arlan, definitively female. I’ve also seen elaboration Arlenis,again definitively female.
I think Georgina, Marlowe, Theodora, Arden, Arlen, Astoria or Patterson would serve you best, if you’re sure you don’t want to use a previously chosen name.
Are you absolutely certain you need to let Ryan go?
I’ve read many of the #namehelp posts and Abby suggests Adair all the time! I think Abby you’re thrilled that someone is finally considering the name Adair lol
I think Abby suggests Linden a lot too and I think it works well with brother Ashley
YES! Completely thrilled. I do suggest Adair ALL THE TIME. So much so that when I catch myself suggesting it I sometimes pause + try to talk myself out of it. But it’s SUCH a great name + so terribly underused …
Ashley F says
I am one of those mom Ashley’s and I LOVE this so much. Ashley Archer is just lovely for a boy. For his sister how about Abbott, Skylar, Adler, Juniper? Great nickname potential. Good luck!
I’m always on team “use your all-time favorite”, so I’d choose James and own it as it is.
But if you want something different:
Ashley and Daphne
Ashley and Noa
Ashley and Elliott
Ashley and Peregrine
Ashley and Dominique
Ashley and June
Ashley and Jonah
Ashley and Jade
Ashley and Blaise
… and I loved the idea of Ashley and Greer.
Would Arden work any better than Adair?
Arden is great!