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WE KNOW OUR STYLE, BUT THIS TIME SEEMS HARDER

Abbie writes:

We have two boys, Samuel “Sam” Edward sounds-like-Kenny and Oliver James sounds-like-Kenny.

Our third baby is another boy, and while I have a list of girls’ names I love, there’s not really any boy name that stands out to me.

My husband likes James, after his dad, but we used it as Oliver’s middle name. We did that because it’s my brother’s name, too, and he and his wife are very clear that they would like to use it for a future son. I think we’d be wrong to use it.

Names we have ruled out/can’t use are:

  • Brady – because our last name ends with Y, we don’t want anything ending with the “ee” sound.
  • Charlie/Charles – Charlie is the perfect name, but same thing here, I don’t like it with our last name and my husband isn’t a fan of Charles
  • Graham – rhymes with Sam, otherwise would be the name
  • Joseph – another family name and possibility for a middle, but maybe it could be a first – I don’t really love it, but I like it better than causing a problem with James
  • Owen – I don’t mind repeating an initial necessarily but something about Owen seems too much like Oliver for me, but it’s the only name we semi-agree on right now
  • Tristan – My nephew’s name, not really our style, but I do like it

It feels like we’re looking at the same lists we used for Sam and Oliver and we’ve already dismissed them all.

Please read on for my response and share your thoughtful suggestions in the comments.

sleeping baby swaddled in dark blanket on velvet blanket; finding traditional boy names like Sam and Oliver
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FINDING MORE TRADITIONAL BOY NAMES

Abby replies:

Congratulations on your new son!

I think there is something about baby three, especially when it’s a third son or daughter. We have the same constraints and preferences we held for our earlier children, but now those kids’ names create more limitations. Oliver’s brother could be Graham, and Sam’s brother could be Owen … but with Sam and Oliver, I can see why you’d prefer to avoid Graham and Owen for this baby.

We tend to use the words classic and traditional interchangeably, but that’s not quite right. And I think it matters here.

You’re looking for a name with some history, broadly accepted as a given name for boys. But you’re both rejecting some of the most classic picks – your husband isn’t wild about Charles and you’re not warming to Joseph.

Instead you’re drawn to Brady, Graham, and Owen. Do these names have history? Yes. Are they evergreen choices always found near the top of the popularity charts? Not at all.

I could suggest William or David or Thomas. But I feel like you must have considered those already.

Instead, let’s lean into the traditional vibe but try to find names that are more in the Graham/Owen category, without being too similar to Sam and Oliver.

CURRENT AND TRADITIONAL BOY NAMES LIKE SAM & OLIVER

BARRETT

A little more polished than Brady, maybe, still straddling that traditional/current line.

CARTER

A surname name that’s been around so long it feels nicely traditional.

DYLAN

Dylan Thomas and Bob Dylan have kept this Welsh name familiar for most of the 20th century, making it a well-established choice today.

ISAAC

Old Testament names have long histories of use, and Isaac might be perfect with Sam and Oliver. Shorten it to Ike, Zac, or use it in full.

JUDE

Another Biblical boy name, Jude also owes its popularity to the enduring Beatles song.

MICHAEL

Yes, this name was huge for much of the 20th century. But use it in full – Michael, not Mike – in 2026, and it feels a little different for a child.

ROWAN

A logical alternative to Owen, with a hint of surname style and a nod to the natural world.

THEO

Theodore is a Top Ten classic. Just Theo ranks in the current US Top 100, too. I think just Theo might satisfy to the just-Charlie/not-Charles argument, but Theodore called Theo is a very valid option, too.

Overall, I’m most drawn to short, strong Jude or new classic Dylan. They’re both traditional boy names like Sam and Oliver, current in 2026 but with plenty of story behind them.

Dylan Joseph is great. Jude Joseph might be a lot of J, though it works. I’ll suggest Jude Barrett or Jude Theodore, though I think there are plenty of middle name options here.

Readers, over to you! Can you suggest more traditional boy names like Sam and Oliver for their new son?

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8 Comments

  1. Congratulations on baby #3!
    How about Samuel Edward, Oliver James &
    Cameron Joseph
    Peter
    Callum
    Hugo
    Benjamin
    Joel

  2. Congratulations on baby #3!
    How about Samuel Edward, Oliver James &
    Cameron Joseph
    Peter
    Callum
    Hugo
    Benjamin
    Joel

  3. Sam, Oliver, and…

    Bennett (Ben)
    Simon (Si)
    Julian (Jules)
    Calvin (Cal) makes a fun alliteration with your last name!
    Royce
    Franklin (Frank)

    Congratulations and best wishes!

  4. Congrats on baby #3!

    How about Nolan? It’s Irish like Brady but shares a lot of sounds with Owen. Nolan Joseph. Samuel, Oliver, and Nolan. I love how all 3 names share an L sound too.

    Elliot! Samuel, Oliver, and Elliot. Elliot Joseph. Love it!

    Miles. Miles Joseph. Samuel, Oliver, and Miles.

    Grant instead of Graham? Grant Joseph. Samuel, Oliver, and Grant. Very handsome

    Reid has similar vibes as Graham as well. Samuel, Oliver, and Reid. Reid Joseph.

    From Abby’s suggestions, I really like Isaac.

  5. I did a double take when I saw the heading as I know another family with a Samuel and an Oliver and they just had baby boy #3! They chose Arthur, which I think goes with the first two names very nicely. Or what about Ian as an alternative to Owen?

  6. Some more ideas:

    Elliott
    Christian (Chris)
    Nathan (Nate)
    William (Will)
    Frederick (Fred)
    Miles
    Kellen/Kellan
    Brooks
    Rhett
    Duncan
    Thatcher
    Marshall
    Nolan