Sunday Summary: 11/22/09
First off, a Thanksgiving news alert: I don’t plan to post on Thursday, November 26 or Friday, November 27. I’m headed off to visit my in-laws in Detroit, and they have these crazy ideas about people sitting in the same room and enjoying each others’ company. :)
It’s been a quiet week as the US readies for the holiday.
Well, not entirely quiet. The second Twilight flick, New Moon, premiered. Names spotted among those turning out for the festivities included designer Rachel Roy brought her 10 year old daughter Ava. Rachel and husband Damon Dash also have a toddler called Tallulah Ruth. (via Celebrity Baby Blog) It’s interesting to see parents who embraced Ava ten years ago, when she was still on the rise, using Tallulah more recently. Anyone else think that the once-outlandish name that had everyone abuzz when the Moore-Willis clan used it will go mainstream? And if a search for “baby names Twilight” brought you here, check out this post: Not Just for Vampires Anymore.
In other celeb news, Tiffani Thiessen tells Extra that she and her husband aren’t considering “any freaky names.” She doesn’t mention whether going through life as Tiffani-Amber colored her view. We’ll have to wait and see.
On to some real life name-spotting:
- I just returned from Target. I was buying toddler tights while another mom was trying to persuade her daughter to try on a coat, but the daughter? Was fleeing to the just-steps-away toy department. The name the mother was calling? ”Miracle! Miracle, come back here!” Insert your own joke about it-taking-an-act-of-God to distract a 3 y.o. from the toy department here;
- Bewildertrix has spotted Leonidas George. My baby brother swears Leonidas will be the name of his firstborn son, should that happy event ever come to pass. She also uncovered an Elisabetta Ivy. And a Zuma. (No Gwen Stefani isn’t in New Zealand – he’s Zuma Louis, a non-celeb baby brother for Ava and Remi.)
- For Real Baby Names spotted Dafne. It may be a valid foreign variant, but to me it is like Jorja/Georgia - this one just looks better as the more familiar Daphne.
Now for two Language Lessons from that sage font of wisdom, Nancy:
- Hard G vs. Soft G – Sometimes they’re interchangeable – as in Jorja/Georgia – but other times, swapping a J for a G leads to confusion;
- Doubling consonants – Ditto doubling a consonant. It’s another popular way to make a name “unique,” but it can also cause confusion.
Truly unusual names are always found at Nameberry, and this week’s posts were no exception. Check out the Lost Boys’ Names of 1880. Why aren’t more boys named Zeb? Or Hardy? Others – including titles like Squire and Commodore – are best left to history. (I work with a man in his 50s named General. I don’t get the impression that he thinks much about his name one way or the other.) For a change, the girls’ list is almost less interesting – maybe because I wouldn’t raise an eyebrow if I met a 2 y.o. called Mahala or Texas.
Let’s end on a controversial note: the shortcomings of the Baby Name Wizard. I recently noticed a post on Swistle (a big BNW adherent) that troubled me. Just a few days earlier, Nancy recounted a similar story on her blog.
An expectant mother, mom to Sophia, wrote to Swistle about the name Allegra. She and her husband loved the name Allegra. Loved the way nicknames Allie and Sophie sounded together. But she worried about the allergy medication association.
Swistle wrote: “I love the name Allegra—and every time I want to suggest it, I back away because of the allergy medicine. I’m ANGRY at the company that stole it.”
Swistle’s poll was evenly split: 52% no to Allegra; 48% yes. But here’s the thing: Swistle’s framing of the question – “Is the name Allegra too associated with allergy medication to be used for a baby?” made it pretty clear that she thought Allegra was beyond consideration. (Swistle is usually so judgment-free that I was really surprised by that.)
The mom herself recently wrote in:
“We ended up naming our daughter Lucy. I love her name, but I regret not being gutsy enough to go with Allegra. Personally, I’d encourage anyone considering the name to go for it. No matter what name you choose some people will like it and others will hate it.”
Lucy is a fine name. I like it lots. But how sad that much naming advice often tends to push parents to the middle, rather than embracing the names that we really love.
I suspect the allergy medication reference is fleeting. When the blogger at For Real Baby Names spotted a Dexy Adelaide, I mentioned the 80s pop hit “Come On, Eileen” – and sent ForReal running to Google. Dexy, it appears, no longer means “one-hit wonder responsible for lodging the phrase too-rye-aye in my brain.” And it hasn’t been that long. It makes me think Allegra will be free of medication association by the time Allie hits the teenage years, if not sooner.
Thanks for reading!
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I’m so glad the medication is marketed as Telfast here. Allegra is perfectly usable in NZ at least.
An Aussie tv personality used Allegra Penelope on her first child a few years ago. I was impressed and it beats a similar Kiwi tv personality who used Brodie and Cameron on her girls :/
And Zuma Louis is a little Aussie but regardless, I wasn’t expecting to see it in any “Antipodean” BAs any time soon.
Dexy is hilarious.
I’m not even old enough to actually remember Dexy’s Midnight Runners, but I know who they are! Jeez.
I just checked with the youngest person I could find – he’s 20-something – and he immediately recognized Dexy’s Midnight Runners … “great bar song,” was his exact comment. Maybe I’m not as ancient as I feared, though I do remember watching the video on MTV, back when we had to get a special converter box because all of our TVs still had those little dials that you clicked from 2 to 13 …
Maybe I am old. That said, Dexy Adelaide doesn’t trouble me much. It beats Lexie, of which I grow weary.
Music is not my thing so it’s me, not you. “) I don’t know bands or singers or names of songs very well, but I did know the song when I heard it. I’m more a movie/tv trivia girl than music.
Schwoo, that’s a relief!
Yikes! That story about the woman who used Baby Name Wizard to choose her kid’s name was kind of scary. What an impersonal way to have your name chosen for you. And speaking of choosing names, I personally think that Allegra is a beautiful name, whether or not it’s a form of allergy medication — seriously, many names have much worse connotations.
I once knew a baby named Miracles. It was during the brief period of time that I lived in South Africa, and she was seriously one of the cutest little things I’d ever seen. The name suited her as a one-year-old, but I don’t know how it would wear on anyone older.
I’ve discovered why the little boy named Kalob’s name is spelt that way. Apparently it is a smoosh of the mother’s choice, Jacob, and the father’s choice, Kale. Actually, the kid’s father wanted to name him Famous, thankfully his mother vetoed it, so now it’s one of his middle names. Kalob’s little sister’s name is quite different in style: Evelyn Elizabeth Annette — I think it’s beautiful.
When you know the story behind a name, and when you like the person who chose it, we often see even the names we find least appealing in a very different light. I just read a heartbreaking story about a woman who is planning to use Nevaeh as a middle name – to honor a daughter who died. It still isn’t my style, but her experience trumps any consideration of style.
And Kalob? Is heaps better than Famous – yikes! Evelyn Elizabeth Annette is quite lovely.
The problem doesn’t seemt o be with BNW as much as it is with how people use BNW.
That’s a nice point, Anonypilgrim – I don’t think Laura Wattenberg intended her guide to become a set of rules.